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1796 Dollar - Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 08/10/2015  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
This one's obvious - real 1976 draped bust dollars have their denticles extend to the edges of the coin. This one has a rim where it shouldn't have one.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Face, date, and eagle just looked funny to me.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
The existence of a rim and the vagueness of the eagle are both proof, independently, that the coin cannot be genuine. No room for question.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
The best indicator that it is fake is the fact that is was struck in a collared press, a modern minting technique that was not used in the 1700s. You can also weigh the coin to see for yourself that it has a white metal composition that weighs less than a genuine silver coin.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list
I'll bet you $5 you either got this from China or got this from a seller who got coins from China.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I'll bet you $5 you either got this from China or got this from a seller who got coins from China.


That's a pretty confrontational way to approach the topic, and will not make you any friends here. To some readers you've just accused the original poster of deliberately acquiring counterfeits.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree with biokemist.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Is it even metal? Perhaps unscientific but if the coin looks like it came out of a cracker jack box probably fake...
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 Posted 08/10/2015  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list

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That's a pretty confrontational way to approach the topic, and will not make you any friends here. To some readers you've just accused the original poster of deliberately acquiring counterfeits.


Lets also consider the op is from Norway. How many U.S $ 1.00, 1796 coins has this person seen?
Willem2904, hope this was a returnable coin.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list
I agree with cast fake
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 Posted 08/10/2015  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willem2904 to your friends list
No offence taken people :-)
I haven't bought any of the coins that you guys say are fake.
I am just looking around at some auction sites like ebay (Norwegian/Swedish websites), and from time to time I see a coin which looks "nice".

I am new to coin grading, so for me it's not easy to see if a coin is real or fake. Therefore I ask you for help.

I greatly appreciate your feedback.
You've probably saved me from buying fake coins :-)
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 Posted 08/10/2015  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list

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You've probably saved me from buying fake coins :-)


Excellent. Most want to help a fellow collector avoid being ripped off by a modern counterfeit. Quite a few members here have pointed out the tell tale signs on this one.


-MV
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, with MeadowviewCollector
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 Posted 08/10/2015  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
To me the coin is a fake, but not a very ugly one.
Nevertheless I would buy it PROVIDED THAT it was sold as a fake at an acceptble price for a fake.
It I did buy it, it would then be added to my 'black' collection of fake coins. (self education)
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 Posted 08/12/2015  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list

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That's a pretty confrontational way to approach the topic, and will not make you any friends here. To some readers you've just accused the original poster of deliberately acquiring counterfeits.


Oh, sorry about that, it's just that Chinese fake Bust dollars are so common these days.
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