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My Collection Lucius Verus Armeniacvs Sestertius

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 Posted 08/30/2015  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imperator to your friends list
I am not happy with the treated, but it is still old
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 Posted 08/30/2015  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
It is a nice coin, and a scarce type too.

Interesting comment about 'betun de Judea'. Never heard of it. I have one or two coins with a similar look, maybe they were similarly treated.

We seem to have similar tastes in Roman Bronzes! - here is my example of the same type. It has a few corrosion spots which need treatment, but otherwise nice portrait.



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 Posted 08/30/2015  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imperator to your friends list
What a great coin thanks
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 Posted 08/30/2015  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
those are both nice lucius verus coins....i don't have any of this guy.

he's on my list.
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 Posted 08/30/2015  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list
really nice, I only have a sestertius of him, a common type

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 Posted 08/30/2015  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imperator to your friends list
Thanks all, you have make a nice topic
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 Posted 08/30/2015  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
"Great minds" and all that stuff
Very nice coin and I fully understand the appeal !

I will join in the show me yours show

This one I have is rather worn down a bit
But in a rather pleasing sort of way ........
The patina though is superb and for that reason makes it one of my favorites.
Guaranteed to make your Armenian friends hyperventilate too !

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 Posted 08/30/2015  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
Nice, I still need to get a 1st or 2nd century sestertius
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 Posted 08/30/2015  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list
This is an image of a bottle of "Betún de Judea" with a translation to english...


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 Posted 08/31/2015  05:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
Thank you, Athalbert. It looks like shoe polish for coins!
Not sure I would want that on my coins.
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 Posted 08/31/2015  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Another reason I believe it important to bathe a coin in acetone for a few hours when they come in the door !

While any bare metal (excepting gold) will tarnish and in fact I believe it to be altogether proper to darken an over cleaned coin surface, the idea of "painting" on a new finish is definitely a line which I will not cross.
Soaking in olive oil or wrapping in news print for a period of time are rather innocuous compared to ........ asphalt ?
Even the use of 'liver of sulphur' on bronze might be considered benign
compared to 'repaving' a new finish !
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 Posted 08/31/2015  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
BTW

GERMANICVS ...... I see some green spots that appear to be associated with the 'reddish' encrustations on your sestertius. I have a Caracalla which had similar areas of hard reddish encrustaions which I hesitated to do anything about. After being put away for nearly one year I noted that the green had in fact become active and was dissolving the red spots as well as making inroads on the bronze. Immediate treatment is advisable !

BD will leave large scars unless nipped in the bud !
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 Posted 08/31/2015  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imperator to your friends list
I like the burst of Lucius verus, I could not find any type, with that burst

i am not happy, with the polish
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 Posted 08/31/2015  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list
FR would you be willing to start a new thread and tell us how you treat Bronze Disease? Toothpick and distilled water? Sodium sesquicarbonate? Something in between?
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 Posted 09/05/2015  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
I am less expert at the topic than you might think !
My brother (MARCVS OBLIVIVS) is my go to guy for BD. I went looking for pics of my Caracalla to show the results of his treatment. The coin after a year in 'storage' showed obvious signs of fuzzy green nodules forming in association with orange encrustations which clung tenaciously to the coin.
Being one of my favorite sestertii I immediately handed it over for the 'cure' !
The previously mentioned orange stuff had been cited by several experts as a removable blemish. Fearing for the worst I had hesitated (unless you know for sure ........ Always hesitate !) to do anything.
The 'cure' stripped away much of the dark patina and left the coin looking less than it had been but I believe the good Doctor in this case had opted for a more radical regime of baths.
The fear often is that once the BD penetrates into a coin the cancer may spread unobserved below the surface. Once you reach a certain point (stage 4 !) the surfaces will simply crumble if treatment is made.
I have an earlier pic which shows the nodules in the early stages. As the green specs did not appear to be soft I hesitated to do anything irreversible. Once the growth became obvious we erred on the side of caution and extirpated (love that word) the tumours.


The first image shows the malignancy in a later stage
The second was where I had been hoping for the best and probably was in denial about the terminal prognosis given by two 'learned gentlemen'
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