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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I SO want one of these, nice coin TC.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm jealous, I would like to have one of those in my collection also!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Its a lovely type, but I have some concerns about this one - it looks to me to be a cast. Its got the porous surfaces, some features that may be cast defects and what looks like a seam (visible at the top of the reverse picture).
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Topcat7
09/10/2015 7:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i dont see any points of concern at all from the older photos.
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Pillar of the Community
Germany
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Wow, that is an impressive write-up. Nice read. The coin looks OK to me. The only thing I find a bit unusual is the protruding jaw on Trajan's bust. Don't believe I have ever seen another one like it. It could be just the picture, though. As you point out, the statue atop the is not the original, unfortunately. Still, the is is an impressive monument, and even more so the incredible detail sculpted all the way up the column. These are pictures of the column I took whilst on a visit to Rome 3 years ago.      Edited by GERMANICVS
09/11/2015 06:11 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What I find terribly intriguing is the notion that Trajans ashes were interred in the base of the column ? While the statue may have been pilfered and replaced the column is certainly intact and as far as I know sitting in the same place as it was erected. Presumably the base is undisturbed.
That seems to imply that something containing the ashes of the "Great" Generalissimo must be undisturbed beneath. I assume they didn't throw the gent into a clay pot and pour 100 tons of concrete over him.
Shades of Jimmy Hoffa !
I wonder what lies beneath that column ...........
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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all the still existing Roman monuments were used by the Church , so it is normal the ashes moved , just as the statue of Trajan has been replaced.albert
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank-you, everyone for looking, and for your comments.
Special thanks to 'Germanicvs' for those photos (although the last one does look suspiciously like the second-last one. Did we miss seeing one?)
What are the 'slotted' windows for? Are they to let light into the staircase, or do they serve a different purpose? My copy of the column is 100th scale so the 'relief' is not very clear, and your photos bring a lot of it 'home' so well. Thank-you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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No one wants to rain on anyone's parade. Just want to point out a few things needing attention. I have to go along with Ben. Here is the result of a google image search. https://www.google.com/search?q=tra...1289&bih=790Try to find another example with the kind of porous surfaces and the loss of detail in the figures in relief that this coin has. In silver, poor surfaces do not necessarily go hand in hand with loss of detail, which usually results from wear. But wear tends to smooth things out and does not produce the pebbly surfaces we are seeing in this coin. By the same token, corrosion can make surfaces irregular, but where it does not directly hit an object in relief, that object will retain much of its detail. Therefore it is not a good sign that both problems appear to be present on this coin at the same time. Something is not right, and it needs a closer look. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Regarding the column itself I watched an interesting video on one theory regarding the construction. What struck me as curious though was the description of the base.
Constructed from eight enormous blocks of marble and said to contain Trajans tomb.
Good enough
But the chamber also contains the spiral staircase that ascends the interior of the column. Assuming that at least half the base must be solid to support the massive column it does not leave a very large space for said "tomb". While the cremated remains of the great man would not require a great deal of space it seems hard to believe that Trajan would have actually wanted his funerary urn to sit inside of a broom closet next to a staircase inside of a public monument.
I prefer to think he may well be beneath the base with a few hundred tons of concrete to keep him safe ............ala Jimmy Hoffa !
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New Member
United States
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Unfortunately your coin is certainly a cast fake. Here is another one for comparison. The flan is the same, die orientation and devices all in the same location. No doubt on this one.  Edited by srukke
11/07/2015 3:08 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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 to the community Not a lot of effort was put into these to fool any one. Very easy to spot as fakes. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't know if you noticed, but the upper coin in the pair srukke is showing is the OP coin at the top of this thread.
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Moderator
United States
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No I just read the last entry. So it would appear that the OP coin is also a fake. TC isn't going to be too happy about that. Looks like it fooled all of us.
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