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Extreme Grease Filled Die?

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 Posted 10/03/2015  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list
Where can I find more info on that cascade?
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 Posted 10/03/2015  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Contact Mike diamond here on ccf and ask him take a look at this thread.
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10/03/2015 8:32 pm
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 Posted 10/04/2015  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Unusual appearance. The well-formed design rim on the obverse and the uneven stregnth and completeness of the design on both faces strongly suggests a grease strike. However, the weakness of the design rim on the reverse suggests a weak strike. My hunch is that this IS a grease strike and that, for some reason, the rim gutter of the reverse die was filled with grease as well. This seldom happens.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list
Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing these aren't too common so how much do you think this might be worth?
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 Posted 10/04/2015  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Despite its unusual characteristics, grease strikes don't carry much of a premium. It might bring $15 on ebay. I'd actually like to study it more closely, if you'd be willing to send it to me.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I also considered a grease strike that was also weakly-struck (I've encountered at least one example). But that still wouldn't explain the unequal strength of the two design rims or the areas of well-struck design on either face.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list
If you could contact me through my email I would be interested in that. Thank you
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10/04/2015 11:18 am
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 Posted 10/04/2015  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
After further thought, I'm going to change my tentative diagnosis to a greasy weak strike. The reason is that the edge of the coin is not flat and tall but is, instead, rounded-looking and thin. The latter is consistent with a weak strike.

I now suspect that deposits of grease were largely or exclusively restricted to the obverse die. The grease forced coin metal laterally into the rim gutter, producing a respectable design rim on the obverse face. At the same time, the extra pressure generated by the localized deposits of grease was more evenly distributed through the body of the planchet to the reverse face so that there wasn't as much pressure applied to the periphery of that face. That's why the reverse design rim didn't strike up nearly as well.
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10/04/2015 11:07 am
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 Posted 10/04/2015  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list
Interesting. Would you still like me to send it to you?
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 Posted 10/04/2015  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
Yes, very much so.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list
Glad I could help mccaniz. If mike wants to see it in hand you may have something quite unusual

Fyi, you should remove your email before a mod does. It's a no no here to post them publicly
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 Posted 10/04/2015  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list
yes, thank you Cascade and thank you for the heads up. I removed my email.
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 Posted 10/04/2015  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMasters to your friends list
You done good Mcanniz, it's always nice to turn pennies into $15.00.
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 Posted 10/05/2015  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list
That's why this forum is so awesome-so much help and expert knowledge,congrats on an interesting find keep us posted on this one
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 Posted 10/09/2015  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
My initial diagnosis was incorrect. With the coin in hand I find that details on both faces were polished away outside the Mint. The obverse has a disturbingly bright luster and the details fade out in a fashion consistent with mechanical removal. The reverse is less bright, but still has some of that peculiar gleam. Details fade out in an inauthentic fashion and the perimeter of the reverse lacks a persistent proto-rim (the planchet's original upset should be preserved to a greater or lesser degree in a weak strike). The clincher is the coin's abnormally low weight (about 2.9 grams).
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