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They're both heavily cleaned but if I had to choose one it would be #1.
Oh, they're slabbed... I can maybe see coin 1 in a good slab as it could be interpreted as circulation in hand but coin 2 has to be in a details slab
Edited by Cascade 10/07/2015 4:58 pm
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Coin 1. Are the surfaces polished or cleaned?
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The reason I ask this question is I bought one raw, which is the one in the anacs holder, the second was a gift. This is more of a lesson comparing grading companies. One of the coins graded problem free, the other had a cleaned designation. My gut tells me the one that graded problem free if sent to the other TPG it would come back cleaned. Will reveal the actual grades tomorrow.
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#1 vf20-25 #2 f15
#1 looks problem free to me that's what I'd go with. #2 looked cleaned
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F15 details cleaned, VG10, but both coins are cleaned. Lower coin has nasty rim bumps, ANACS straight grade.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/07/2015 10:04 pm
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The top coin is in an ANACS slab, the bottom PCGS. The anacs coin just came back from a group I sent off. I don't disagree with the grade but feel the the PCGS coin is "more" cleaned so to speak. it has bright rim toning that doesn't really show up in the pictures indicative of being cleaned and retoning in an album. Anyway here are the grades. Again buy the coin not the holder. If we look at completed ebay sales the PCGS coin would probably bring more money than the ANACS. Coin #1  Coin #2 
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I would crack out the ANACS one and send it to PCGS cause I don't think the VF20 one was cleaned....I think the F12 one is cleaned.
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Well if that isn't a tale of TPG "bass-ackward"-ness I don't know what is  I stick by my previous evaluations
Edited by Cascade 10/08/2015 10:15 am
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Oh how grading standards have dropped over the years. But on the bright side, all old slabs need to be cracked, either for $$$ regrades or to permanently set the coins free in pockets again.
And my 1893-cc, which I considered no higher than VG8, just made F12.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/08/2015 6:54 pm
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Both are badly cleaned. The first one has better details while the second one has better eye appeal. Your choice for your set. PCGS gets it wrong yet again. 
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It looks like I'll be in the minority here but I like coin 2 better.
I like the blue toning (probably from an album) around the edges. I don't think it deserves to be details either. Coins that worn get hairlined naturally during their extensive times in circulation.
I actually like the first one too and I think the only reason it got detailed is the strange toning behind Liberty's head makes it too obvious the coin had some stains that were unevenly washed away.
Edited by OLCoins 10/09/2015 01:24 am
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