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1922 No "D" Die 2? Grade And Possible Value Please.

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 Posted 10/18/2015  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list
edweather has sound advice. Not all, but a very large portion of collectors will only bid on certified coins when they are in the price tier of a no-d. Very desireable & heavily counterfeited and/or often modified. The internet can be a tricky place & having your coin authenticated will give bidders the peace of mind to "up the ante" when vying for your coin in the marketplace.

Oh, and to CCF.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list
Will the ANACS clean the coin for me or is that something I need to do before I submit it? And if I do have to clean it can someone let me know the best way to do so without causing damage. I'm also confused about the options which are conservation, variety verification, variety research, and imaging. If anybody could let me know which ones should be chosen for this specific coin that'd be great.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CopperCastle to your friends list
Oh my, where to begin...The first rule of Numismatics is "Never clean your coin". In layman's terms, conservation IS a form of cleaning, but conservation is done in a manner that doesn't ruin the surfaces by use of abrasion which can cause harline scratches & damage to the coin...so it's not "technically" cleaning it.

Judging by your picture the coin has been wiped at some point already...which will detract from the value. Don't try to clean the coin yourself. The problem (even with using acetone, which is GENERALLY considered safe) is that the surfaces under the dirt may appear vastly diffrent (and vastly obvious) once the dirt is gone.

To summarize (and hopefully clarify your questions)
1)Conservation may increase the appeal of the coin. It's basically a professional cleaning (but not technically cleaning) & treatment to prevent further degradation of the coin.
2) Variety verification is them labeling your coin as a suspected variety that you've outlined beforehand.
3) Variety research is them doing the legwork if you do not know the variety.
4) Imaging is professional pictures of your coin.

If you just want the coin verified for authenticity then you don't really need any of these additional services. If you want to look nicer though, conservation may be a viable option.

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10/18/2015 11:33 am
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 Posted 10/18/2015  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list
So I would want conservation and variety verification out of all those options I'm guessing from what you've stated coppercastle. It's looking like it will cost about $76. Does my submission form look correct? Never done this before just want to make sure this is the best route to go with this specific coin. Thank you.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHuntingDrew to your friends list
I don't think it should cost $76...I thought ANACS prices for grading were fairly cheap.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jake the Dog to your friends list
I'm also pretty sure that the 22 no D is considered well known enough that ANACS will attribute without the attribution fees. I would call to confirm though. And if you can hold off a month or two (and join the ANACS insider email), they send out emails with a code offering two free gradings (although return shipping/insurance is required). The next insider free grading will likely be Christmas (mid December), at least it has been then for the last three years. If you decide to go this route (registering and waiting 2 months) I would consider finding a second coin you want graded too (really not much extra since your paying insurance/shipping on the first.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list

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I don't think it should cost $76...I thought ANACS prices for grading were fairly cheap.

He chose the conservation services, so that's why its expensive.

Looking forward to what ANACS grades this
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 Posted 10/18/2015  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Yeah, imo, I would not use the conservation service, but you never know, it might improve the look. The attribution cost is not necessary. The 1922 No D Die #2 is a standard minor variety, and they will label the holder accordingly. I've had two of them graded by ANACS and didn't have to pay the $7.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Let it ride.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
VF, maybe details based on the first two pics.

If the above reverse is corroded, they will not attempt conservation, none of the services will conserve a coin unless they're sure they can. You may be wasting your money but I'd get it slabbed.
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 Posted 10/18/2015  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list
Thank you everyone for your replies! I will be giving them a phone call in the morning to straighten out a few details and questions and maybe beg for a deal since it's my first time :)
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 Posted 10/19/2015  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mistermann to your friends list
Alright well she is all packaged up and ready to go out tomorrow. Called this morning, said I probably don't need the attribution service, just write no "D" on the form. Kinda sucks that you still get charged for the conservation even if they decide it is not needed. The guy I spoke with seems to think the the little bit of green corrosion I have going on can be taken care of so I'll leave it in their hands. I'll update with a new topic sometime next month unless you'd rather me post results in this one. I'd also like to hear more guesses on the final grade so place your bets everyone!
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 Posted 10/19/2015  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
Sound good. Hopefully you'll be pleasantly surprised with the conservation. Maybe if they can't do much with the conservation, they'll bump the grade a hair

Looking forward to seeing it in the holder.


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Now we have to wait...
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