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1969 Nickle Dollar Second Paddler Hand

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 Posted 12/28/2015  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
if I am reading everything correctly. the 1968 and 1969 the only different is that the date. than why is it that the upper waterline is a shelf. it is not a water line on this coin. the first image is of the 1969 and the second is of the 1968. could this possibly be another variety issue. opinions please.

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 Posted 12/28/2015  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
here is what the hand looks like on the 1968 nickel. the paddle is properly placed. the paddle has a round top. like the natives paddle. it is placed properly

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 Posted 01/01/2016  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
after reading everything. I could find on the 1968 and 1969 nickel dollars. there must have been something on the die. so this and error of sorts.
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 Posted 01/03/2016  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
the single line on the 1969 dollar. the metal at the line and slightly above is depressed. so it is like a stream bank. here is a 1968 look at the water lines. even the partial one is defined.

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 Posted 01/10/2016  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
wanted to shoot this coin again, I did this with different light angles. with the coin out of the plastic. there is a chip of nickel on the c in Canada. on the backside there is a mark as well on the queens eyebrow.

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 Posted 01/10/2016  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Rocky later today I'm going to take a close look at my '68 and '69 ND. Whether a die chip or variety, I also think your beaver claw hand is really cool.
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 Posted 01/10/2016  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
wildflowerAB thank you some member at the local club. I am part of is bring me about a dozen sets each of 68 and 69. I showed them the coin with the stream bank. they said they are will to help us try to find possibly a new variety. so if we could get enough sets together. maybe we can see what we get. I am going to find another way to light the 1969 coin. I watched a video last night on a new way of stacking. its all done from the computer. that may help a lot to. have a great one hope you find some thing interesting. please share
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 Posted 01/10/2016  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Okay Rocky, well first I want to say that I commend people such as you who diligently look for new varieties because that's what makes the hobby interesting. I happen to have quite a few 1968 because I was searching for the no/small/regular island type. I mistakingly started looking at the paddler's hand also on the 1968s and immediately noticed what you spotted, same as 1969. However I think it's Grease Filled Die because I notice a distinct progression. For example:

Top of paddle and thumb holding paddle is visible (sorry I notice this pic is not good):
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Hand and sleeve deterioration:
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Even more pronounced:
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Of interest, I notice there's a 1969 Short Water Line at Stern(rear) variety in addition to Doubled Lettering.

That the 1968 has a two horizontal water line above, the 1969 only a single line I believe is the standard. In the 1968's, doubling of the top and even all the lines may occur. Lots of anomalies!

Rocky have you collected the island types?

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 Posted 01/10/2016  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
yes I have the island set for 1968. I also have one with a complete matte finish. the sets I am going to check not sure which ones they have. a lot of the older collectors. want to sell there coins. no body in there families want them sad. I have seen some really nice stuff. well I will check as many as I can. post the info here . then see what can be done.
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 Posted 01/10/2016  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Yes it is sad, I can't quite understand how children can just shrug their shoulders at something they know is very meaningful to their parents. But you are very fortunate to be connected in that their loss is your gain. I'm not.....seems I only hear about it after the fact and not long ago I became aware of a longtime bank manager's silver collection (most likely mint) sold by the beneficiaries of that estate for silver value only. They had absolutely no idea old coins had any value whatsoever beyond bullion.

I shall look forward to your sharing pics and info of some of your finds!
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 Posted 01/18/2016  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
checking another 1969 nickel dollar. the beads at the top are larger than the bottom and sides. the denticles on the voyager side top to bottom are a different side as well. I also noticed on the queens neckle doubling.

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 Posted 01/18/2016  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
just above the vogageur hand on the island is a die clash. the gentleman that owns this coin will be happy. he likes errors. next week he is giving me 6 sets to check for him.
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 Posted 01/18/2016  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Rocky is that doubling on the "REG" of Regina as well? I wish I could put a label to the very obvious uneven denticles and beads but I can't, hoping someone who is more familiar with error terminology might chime in. The obverse does appears slightly off-center though.

Have fun looking through those next 6 sets as well. That gentleman is very fortunate to know someone like you who enjoys searching for errors for him!
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 Posted 03/20/2016  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
I found another variation on the 1969 nickel dollar. I have checked a lot of these sets for other people.

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 Posted 03/20/2016  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list
this one the island is like. there is more land mast to the island.
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