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SPP are you telling me the ding on the loons head is pre-strike remnants? I Cant Correctly See dropped the ball huge here IMO. No recourse. Maybe switched...no recourse. Go figure.
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 Canada
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Mike, have you forgotten how ICCS grades? Since when do they look at the reverse that closely?  Besides, I told you this - ICCS like clean fields, they are very harsh with marks in the fields, and forgiving on the devices... A good portion of the Canadian collector base like that style of grading. Like I said earlier, it is almost impossible to find a 2003 or 2004 loon dollar without these "ghost marks" on them... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Edited by Pacificoin
01/28/2016 6:08 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Even worse is when you need to explain to a newer collector that there is not a single way to grade. Then factor in how 'eye appeal' is a floating standard that's virtually impossible to agree on.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Could not agree more Moxking.
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Canada
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and wait till newcomers get into the Red/Brown issue  |
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Canada
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with purple toning and cobalt blue mixed in with the RED Brown. Oh boy,! |
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Canada
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With purple toning and cobalt blue mixed in with the RED Brown. Oh boy! You mean, like this one?  PCGS graded it MS-66 Brown, the surfaces are absolutely pristine... any takers on what the ICCS certificate was for this same coin?  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Canada
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Or this one... what do you think ICCS graded this one as? It is now in a PCGS holder (and correctly graded, in my opinion), what grade do you think each TPG gave it?  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Australia
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PCGS graded it MS-66 Brown, the surfaces are absolutely pristine... any takers on what the ICCS certificate was for this same coin? I wouldn't be at all surprised if ICCS had this graded as MS65. Congratulations on the single finest grading  |
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Canada
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Roger what a wonderful way of putting my words into your pictures. What a pretty 1924. Exactly what I meant!
Knowing how ICCS looks at copper. Probably MS 64 lustrous Brown or trace red.
I have a 1926 like your 24 . ICCS called it 64 trace red.
The 1940 Newfoundland is a stunning piece. Nice!
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01/29/2016 10:58 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote:PCGS graded it MS-66 Brown, the surfaces are absolutely pristine... any takers on what the ICCS certificate was for this same coin? Or this one... what do you think ICCS graded this one as? It is now in a PCGS holder (and correctly graded, in my opinion), what grade do you think each TPG gave it? I can see those both being graded at one time 'ICCS MS62 Lustrous Browns' I actually prefer the look on the Canada Small cents that blueish brown like your 1924, beautiful piece! |
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Taiwan
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1940 NFLD: ICCS 63 Lustrous Brown. PCGS 65 Brown
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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P.S. I would guess the NFLD small cent at MS65 Brown as a PCGS coin?
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Canada
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I have a 1926 like your 24 . ICCS called it 64 trace red. I bought this 1926 at the Nuphilex TCNC spring auction last year. It was graded ICCS MS-62 Red (yeah Red!)... I examined the coin in hand and got it very cheap (probably because Hugh Powell was not there!)... It is now in a PCGS MS-64B holder. ICCS has a very strong negative bias with bronze coins. It is very, very rare to see ICCS Red-Brown, Trace-Red, Lustrous Brown or Brown coin in a holder graded higher than MS-63. I once sent a toned 1974 Specimen cent to ICCS, the coin was absolutely perfect, but toned blue. It came back SP-63 Brown...   "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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