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Pillar of the Community
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Your photos are just fine Torgemco. Of the two, did you notice the difference in the space between the "5" and the "2". The narrow space and the "2" further from then hoof makes the first one you posted a "narrow date", the next one is a "wide date".
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Here's a picture of a 1952 date with no design between the 5 & 2. Cheers, Bill 
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Thanks for that photo Bill! Indeed, nothing whatsoever in that space between the 5 and 2. The next best that I have is one little chip which seems to be the most common.
As always, I appreciate everyone's contributions in giving ode to the multitude of varieties of the 50c!
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Got around to shooting one of my 52's. I have another one somewhere I will shoot when I find it. I think this is the same as SilverDons except it doesn't have a double HP. Wide Date High 2 (Please correct if I'm wrong)  
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Awesome and thank you for showing the line drawn from the top of the one to the bottom of the ring as well, very helpful in determining many of the King George VI varieties.
While you're searching for your other 1952, you likely have some 1947s, ML or otherwise that you (and others) might kindly share photos of as well (thread coming soon). Top dog of the series!
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Yes, I have 47's. Will wait for your thread.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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My other 52. Wide Date, High 2 Double HP Die Crack on reverse running from Hoof to Rim  
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Looking back at 1952 Varieties... Looking for a double HP, the 1952 stands a good likelihood. Here's my photo revealing some doubling of the "REX" as well.  1952 is the last year of King George VI's effigy. As history indicates Queen Elizabeth II took the thrown in Feb, 1952 I suppose not a lot of 1952 King Geo die repair was considered worthwhile if the 50c were still being minted during the year. The background area of the "52" is interesting as well. Over time its almost gotten filed flat as a pancake, and Hounddog Bill's photo is of a variety where there's absolutely nothing left whatsoever. Something that always fascinates me about coin (or currency) collecting is how well it illustrates and aligns with the passage of time.
Edited by wildflowerAB 02/28/2017 12:06 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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Heh Wildflower. Thanks for starting these threads, great opportunity to learn about the 50 cent pieces! Now I have to check my coins for these variants.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'm sure I've shown this coin earlier in some other thread but I can't seem to find it. This one has a lot of the design left between the five and two and it also has the doubled HP. Looks different from the first one shown.    
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Hounddog Bill you've given me an opportunity to illustrate the painsaking work that must go into documenting 50c varieties. Mind boggling actually. I hope Paul doesn't mind me posting a photo of the respective reference to the 1952 dbl HP die page within his study. I don't think so because he's very gracious in sharing, if anyone's interested. Zoell RT454a - four different types R1 to R4 Zoell T454a - two types R1 and R2  EDiting to replace the photo, how this is more legible. Anybody want to guess which one it is? Mine - RT454a - type R2
Edited by wildflowerAB 02/28/2017 2:52 pm
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New Member
Canada
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what type do I have can you guys tell me please? 
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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You can take anything that "pginrh" has to say about 50 cent pieces as gospel ... he is the guru on this great series. I'm sure that the "Paul" that's mentioned and referred to above is him and his extensive study. Charlton had to greatly greatly reduce his work for the 50 cent variety section in the back.
Edited by okiecoiner 02/06/2020 10:15 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I would say that is a Narrow Date with drapery. Looks like there is also some MD present.
Edited by JimmyD 02/06/2020 09:35 am
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Valued Member
Canada
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The 195 of the date is fixed and so for date positioning varieties, it all depends on the position that the 2 was imparted to the die. Since the last date '2' digit was manually entered into each die, and since there were 66 Reverse dies used per the Mint figures, there are 66 possible date configurations possible. Only the widest date, and narrowest date' arer illustrated in Charltons catalogues (unless you have the 68th edition where quite a few of the George VI 50c varieties are picturedl). The coin in NewNumismatist's entry is one of the 'inbetween' configurations, neither the narrowest or widest, no repunched 2, the 2 at a height between highest and lowest positioning, and design visible between the 5 and 2. The question that remains is there any doubling of the 'HP' on the Obverse.
Edited by pginrh 02/06/2020 09:43 am
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