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Non-Magnetic Nickel In 2012 25 Cent Proofs?

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 Posted 03/13/2016  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wilsonwu89 to your friends list
You can easily open the plastic case and reclose it. Its resealable
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 Posted 03/13/2016  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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You can easily open the plastic case and reclose it. Its resealable


I've a couple of sets I want to take apart so I can take out the coins for my collection. Although I haven't looked closely, I assumed I'd need to somehow break open the case.

Care to share your knowledge?
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 Posted 03/14/2016  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everycountrycoins to your friends list
It appears that wilsonwu89 is correct. It appears that I can just pull it open. Hmmm.... Perhaps I will check back with that geoscientist....
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 Posted 03/14/2016  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
That easy? Well that's certainly good to know. I assumed, worse case scenario, I'd need to tackle the job with a pry bar and hammer
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 Posted 03/14/2016  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list
How hard is it to release the loonie from the NHL mini-pucks?
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 Posted 03/15/2016  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list
The mini pucks I had to cut the edge with a band saw and break an edge off to expose the coins edge. Then carefully pull/lifted it out. The problem with the mini pucks is there is a small magnet to hold it in place. I will have to check my 2012 set quarter!!
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 Posted 03/15/2016  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
On the mini-pucks, it is that magnet that often scratches the obverse of the coin. I tore apart at least a dozen Vancouver Canucks mini-pucks, before I found a loon that would certify MS-67 with ICCS...
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 Posted 03/15/2016  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Meanwhile, back to the OP's dilemma.
The non-magnetic coin in almost certainly a silver proof.
Do not remove it from its original packaging.
Any sign of tampering, however slight, will negate any error value the set has.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 03/18/2016  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everycountrycoins to your friends list
Well, I had it tested with an electron microscope today. The conclusion--an approximately 75/25 copper/nickel alloy. I have no idea where it may have come from, but it clearly was not the composition that it should have been. I guess a 75/25 C-N alloy isn't magnetic? Well, hopefully somebody will consider this "error" to be valuable. ;-)

56 percent nickel is required before the alloy shows ferro-magnetic properties at ordinary temperature. Thus, all makes much more sense, now (other than the origin of this non-standard proof planchet).
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Surprised that it is not silver.
Did you weigh it?
Did you get an accurate measurement of the diameter and thickness?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Very cool... I occasionally see off-metal coins struck in mint sets, mostly from 1999-2000 sets...
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 Posted 03/18/2016  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
I think it's really cool as well! Your 25c is supposed to be pure nickel, no copper.

I do happen to notice that RCM minted various cupronickel collector 25c in and around 2012 however they were larger at 35mm in diameter. But considering your analysis is equal to cupronickel, somehow it seems that a wrong planchet got added into your proof set.
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 Posted 03/20/2016  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everycountrycoins to your friends list
Although the RCM didn't make any Copper-Nickel quarters of this size in 2012, the 2013 KM# 1547 was. I didn't weigh the quarter while it was out, but I'm pretty sure that it is a standard 23.9 mm.
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 Posted 03/20/2016  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
@ everycountrycoins that's very possibly the answer. Also because RCM mints coins for other countries, it's reasonable to conclude they maintained a supply of standard 23.88mm cupronickel planchets. In addition, thinking back, because 2012 was a year of change for RCM, the penny discontinued and the first year of offering two different types of proof sets it's also possible there was early experimentation regarding the specifications for each of the respective sets. Also, my understanding is that the COA sequence is not indicative of production order whatsoever. Rather, it's totally random.

Most likely other 2012 sets also contain cupronickel quarters. Which brings me to my question, I'm just curious --- what was it that motivated you to check if the coinage in your set was magnetic or not?
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 Posted 03/31/2016  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add everycountrycoins to your friends list
It probably had something to do with my knowledge that there were two compositions of proof coins that year. I was looking at the coins, noticed that the composition was supposed to be nickel, saw the magnet near the mouse, and applied it to the casing outside the coins. It was a little obsessive compulsive, but sometimes those little actions that seem to have no rational basis can lead to discoveries.
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