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1824 Capped Bust Half Dollar. Grade It!

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 Posted 04/19/2016  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
It is in an ICG slab at EF-40, not details grade for cleaning for some reason. Other than the surface issues it looks more like a straight 35 to me, 30 if the grader is having a bad day but the better reverse should redeem it somewhat.
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04/19/2016 08:51 am
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 Posted 04/19/2016  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
http://www.PCGS.com/Photograde/#/Capped50/Grades

With all due respect I wish that you would look at this group of Photograde pieces and compare the VF-35 with your coin.
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 Posted 04/19/2016  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
billjones - appreciate the link. It certainly looks 30ish compared to that. In my limited experience collecting I sort of discount photograde. There is just one example per grade and it seems like there are so many inconsistencies as you move up or down the grades for various coins. I'm basing what I think on just seeing other graded coins.

Although I am just learning so I truly appreciate the advice and especially the constructive criticism.

One more question - Are ICG so inflated where they give this a 40?
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04/19/2016 09:04 am
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 Posted 04/19/2016  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list
The short answer to your question is yes. Many ICG graded coins are over graded. They do get it right on some of them, but their standards are less strict than the two leading services.

What I am fighting is grade-flation. It is a trend that TPGs are using to drum up more business.
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 Posted 04/19/2016  09:52 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
It looks like VF+ Details - Harshly Cleaned.
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 Posted 04/19/2016  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list
The ICG slab plus the "no details" for dipped bust coinage, (seems to be a trend lately,) is the reason I played along and went with EF40, and I was right. But yes, in reality, it's a VF details coin. Nice one though!
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 Posted 04/19/2016  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Agree VF-30 details (cleaned).
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 Posted 04/19/2016  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add RK55 to your friends list
VF-20 details cleaned
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 Posted 04/19/2016  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
VF details
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 Posted 04/19/2016  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list
VF-30 Details, would pass. Not very attractive IMO.
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 Posted 04/19/2016  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
I bought it in a moment of weakness to fill a gap. I figured if ICG says 40 it would at least be a 30 and worth what I paid. The cleaning part is the unknown of course. Non returnable also. Oh well, live and learn.
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 Posted 04/20/2016  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
Just remember, any white silver coin that is 150+ years old has been dipped or cleaned.
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 Posted 04/20/2016  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add syeb to your friends list
Do NGC and PCGS generally ignore cleaning on Bust coins as long as there are no surface marks? I have seen many relatively white coins that certainly looked treated in some way but were in regular graded slabs.
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It appears to be an O-107 R2.
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 Posted 04/20/2016  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add georgescoins to your friends list
VF 25 Details cleaned.
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