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1964 Double Struck, Rotated In Collar Cent

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 Posted 12/14/2016  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
That's ok.... it would not have been the first time I have forced you to pay full market value for a coin!!
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SPP will recommend sending to PCGS...I will recommend slabbing with CCCS or NGC...

it's really a personal preference. You will note I have 6 double struck 1969s on ebay right now, 3 are in NGC holders, 3 are in CCCS holders.

If you want to see how they will look slabbed, have a look!
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 Posted 12/14/2016  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paulsz to your friends list
^not gonna lie, I was looking at some error coins on ebay earlier today. Happened to cross those dbl struck canadian varieties has up for sale... I wish I had the budget at the moment but Christmas shopping is quickly adding up
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I'm torn between letting them go and keeping them...it may be a common date but you get to see cool examples of different rotation angles whether double struck on same side or flipped over.
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 Posted 12/15/2016  02:14 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
yes @ C-V it is a personal preference isn't it? I am on the fence about cracking it, I would like to get it out to properly study and photograph it for y'all and in the future I think it'd do better in a CCCS slab over an ANACS one so maybe..

and yes! some nice 1969s you have
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 Posted 12/15/2016  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
the coin is now free from it's slab..likely to be sent to CCCS one day..i'll try getting better pics over the Christmas break or something.
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 Posted 12/15/2016  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
1969 was definitely a year full of shenanigans at the Royal Canadian Mint.
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 Posted 12/15/2016  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
SPP, given the amount of 1969s there are and how available they are, do you think their high prices, often in the $600 are justified? and if not, what would you say a fair value is for these?
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 Posted 12/15/2016  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
Fair value is $200-$300...a good deal if you get them $100-$200

$600 is too much and would suggest the seller doesn't really want to sell them
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Fair value is $200-$300...a good deal if you get them $100-$200

$600 is too much and would suggest the seller doesn't really want to sell them


that sounds reasonable..my comment wasn't directed at you btw it's something I've noticed with others trying to sell these as well. also apologies for not getting back to you about the N.B. E/Fs..I've been pretty busy plus I can't get good pics of them for the life of me..darn ICCS holders!
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 Posted 12/15/2016  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
For the 1-cent coins, the price depends on the grade and eye-appeal. MS-64Red in a PCGS holder are worth $350 - $400. MS-65 or higher are worth about $600... nice ones are out there, you just have to be patient. There are a lot of red-brown coins and ones with fingerprints on them. It took me a long time to find nice ones with eye-appeal in terms of colour and rotation with the second strikes. I was happy with MS-64 reds for my collection:

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/29952933
http://www.PCGS.com/cert/29952932

The 1969 1-cent struck on 10-cent coins are scarcer and easily worth $1200 if MS-64, much more if the grade is higher and the eye-appeal is just right. It took me a long time to find a couple nice MS-65 grades in these.

http://www.PCGS.com/cert/29952934
http://www.PCGS.com/cert/32839537
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 Posted 12/16/2016  10:57 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
@SPP amazing info and coins! thank you very much for sharing

here are some more pics..some may have an odd colour because I modified them a little to better show the details

1964-Double-Struck,-Rotated-In-Collar-Cent

1964-Double-Struck,-Rotated-In-Collar-Cent

Note the II of ELIZABETH II above the bust in this pic
1964-Double-Struck,-Rotated-In-Collar-Cent

1964-Double-Struck,-Rotated-In-Collar-Cent
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You guys are killing me...now I just want to sell off a whole bunch of coins & buy one...lol
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 Posted 12/16/2016  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Very nice thedollarman... I'll have to dig deep into the box of goodies to find something to dangle in front of your nose now...
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 Posted 12/16/2016  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
@SPP-Ottawa well in all honesty..I'm quite positive you'll find something to tempt me with. I like dollars as you know..i have a very late stage counter brockage 1963 cent I want to show too..i can't get pics though..it's very tough to catch the distorted and over sized devices as they are quite shallow and wavy.
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