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Pillar of the Community
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I'd say PCGS says VF-30. Nice coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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VF-20.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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PCGS is liberal sometimes, so I'll say VF-30
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Valued Member
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Here are the results...... What do you guys think caused this coin to detail? I am thinking the uneven obverse toning of the neck and darkness of the face? What do you guys think?
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow that's really a shocker to me that coin really is quite attractive and looks to have original surfaces. Perhaps it was lightly cleaned and judiciously retoned; through a loupe can you see any hairlines that might indicate cleaning?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The slab shows the 92 code. It indicates the grader thought it was cleaned.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Valued Member
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Can someone answer this question. Not this one, but if a coin has slight hairlines say in two random spots of the obverse - around 7oclock and 11 areas of the fields. Is that a slight wipe? The reverse has slight hairlines around the 2 oclock field. I know cleaned coins say if they were wiped would have consistent hairlines in a series. Are there any other causes of hairlines. Sorry for the long wind, but this thing has been bugging me about one of my coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I am floored by this finding . PCGS should have at least said why they gave it VF Details .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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They did.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Valued Member
United States
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I think that Liberty face is darkened and the discoloration on the neck might be signs of cleaning. Am I wrong?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Can you provide a larger cropped, hi res picture of the coin?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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