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Hello From Kansas Y'all... Need Some Help To ID 1983 Penney

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 Posted 02/14/2017  12:25 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
To clarify, 1982 was the year that both copper (brass) cents and copper-plated zinc cents were minted intentionally.

If the left coin is actually a genuine '83 with a 95% copper composition, then it's worth a good sum.

I do agree with dd27 in that there are design elements that look a little odd, including the mouth.

I would suggest getting it authenticated. Maybe others have a good suggestion as to how to go about that.
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 Posted 02/14/2017  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dd27 to your friends list

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To clarify, 1982 was the year that both copper (brass) cents and copper-plated zinc cents were minted intentionally.

Excellent--and important--point spruett - thank you!

Important because a brass 1982 Lincoln Cent is commonplace; but a brass 1983 is not.
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Important because a brass 1982 Lincoln Cent is commonplace; but a brass 1983 is not.


Unless you have a 1982-d small date brass.
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 Posted 02/14/2017  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
to CCF. In your pic,which one weights 48 grains? Also,please post pic of reverse.
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I moved your welcome post to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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Thank you everyone for all the great info. I'm going to post pics of the other side later today when I get off work. I'm hoping my brother knew what the one on the left was and thats why he kept them hidden. Great story for later. Talk to y'all soon.

Thanks again
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 Posted 02/14/2017  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blayne Puckett to your friends list
Here is the reverse side of the same pennies



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Is this just my eyes, or is one a Close AM, and the other a WAM?
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Blayne! Looks like an awesome find!
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Thanks guys! Suggestions about what to do next?
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 Posted 02/14/2017  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Bay 8,is that zinc showing? I think I also see plating bubbles? I hope I'm wrong.
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I agree with John -- looks like a gouge shows the zinc on the left side.

The appearance alone won't tell us much. I've seen much later cents with the same color as the one on the left. All we can definitively see is that the coin on the right has bubbles under the plating. You'll have to show us the coins on a scale.
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I'll find a decent set of digital Scales and make sure the weight is correct. The powder Scales I used the first time are old manual slide scales and measures in grains instead of grams. Ill post the results with pics soon... I just noticed the silver looking spot on the coin myself. Not looking good for a copper 83. But what about the wide and Close AM? And look at the dbl letters in "united States" anything to that?
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I can't really see much of the tiny details of your coins. I use http://coppercoins.com/ to check for varieties, but they do not have any doubled die reverses listed for 1983D cents.

As for Wide AM versus Close AM, they both should be Wide AM. The Close AM reverse wasn't used on circulation strike cents until 1993, although there were a few rare close AMs minted in 1992 that are worth a lot. I suspect it's camera angle or the lighting (maybe die stage?), but the coin on the right seems to have a smaller gap between the A and M than the coin on the left.

{I'm not sure if you're familiar with the term wide AM/close AM, but it refers to the reverse design, which was changed in 1993. Wide and close refer to the gap between A and M in AMERICA. Other telltale signs of the different reverses are the serifs on the G in the designer's initials FG to the bottom right of the memorial.)
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Anything new to report on this?
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