Question On Roll Hunting

Thanks Gary!

MS-60 stands for Uncirculated. or missing mint luster and can have a few very minute bag marks.
BU is actualy a word used by the seller (mostly)

watch the mint in production of the coins they ding rub down a METAL shut.then the line coin checker rubs his hand threw all the coins and pick out one to look at quality check.then the tub is moved out and a new is put in its place.and when these coins go down the shut there is more than one so now they are hitting each other.even the mint sets HAVE DING COINS.
then when the coins are put into rolls they are touch again to spread them into the counter and roll making machine.

in all BU is a state of LOOKS!

if you want the top grade of coin then look at the PROOF sets.they wear gloves and do them one at a time.

i talk to much!

I'm no expert. Call me silly; to me, 'uncirculated' is uncirculated. Someone proposed that a coin that's been in 15 different pockets qualifies as "uncirculated." In an extreme circumstance, like each of the 15 stood around and passed to one another with gloved hands and put it into a clean pocket, I suppose that's plausible. Then again, taking a cameo coin from a holder and burying it in the ground means it's uncirculated, too.

I would presume a BU coin would always remain a BU coin subject only to toning. Corrosives, like fingerprints and anything else (except causes of natural toning) that would affect it's brilliance mean that eventually it wont be "brilliant" per se.

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just as soon as it go's from the roll into a cash register it is considered circulated and can never be uncirculated again

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So if a cashier cracks open a brand new fresh from the Fed roll of the latest state quarters(solid state roll from one mint, not mixed), drops them into the change tray, and then proceeds to hand me one for my change, you call that circulated? There is no wear involved anywhere in that very plausible scenario so by definition that coin is mint state, not circulated with wear.

You either have an uncirculated coin(no wear) or a circulated coin(with wear or damage in some cases), it is largely irrelevant where it is found since wear is the indicator, not the location of the coin.

Soooooo, would you consider a MS-70 coin BU? MS-65? Where is the line? Or do you consider them completely independent of one another? So, it could be possible to have a BU MS-60 coin that we can hypothetically agree has never been 'circulated,' and at the same time have a MS-67 coin that is not 'uncirculated' because it spent 5 min in my pocket on the way home from the gas station where I got it in change, and therefore not BU?

What if I broke a coin out of my Unc mint set, put it in my pocket for 5 min, then carefully put it back? Is the set not Unc anymore?

Edit: You are arguing semantics. Uncirculated is not an invisible thing around a coin that as soon as it is 'circulated' breaks and ruins the coin forever. Uncirculated is a state of a coin determined by the amount of wear (or lack the of) that is present on the coin. Any MS coin is considered uncirculated. Think about it; Mint State. Lets disect that phrase Mint State, no its not where Tic-Tacs come from. It means that the coin is in the state that it was when it was at the mint, no I don't mean Colorado or Penn. AKA UNCIRCULATED!

Just a point of view from an admitted newb. But is'nt the whole grading thing based on condition not actually verifiable use? IE brilliant uncirculated condition. Meaning semanticaly the condition it should be in if it just dropped out of the press.