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1910 Lincoln Penny Amazing Rainbow Toner With Cartwheel Effect Strong

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 Posted 08/17/2017  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
AT, too bad.



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 Posted 08/17/2017  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I am always a bit suspicious of older coins that should have otherwise acquired a rich dark patina.
Red coins are about, but rainbow toning coins can be produced in shed jobs, and so make me .

I notice that plain 1910 Cents have a relatively low value in MS60, especially when you compare them with MS60 Cents in the the 1909 to 1916 date range.
I reason from this that the 1910 plain would be the cheapest least risk coin in MS60 to fool around with the toning.
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 Posted 08/17/2017  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoctorBurnzy to your friends list
If you charge me $7 bucks like this one did and put it on a 1910 or 1909 that look like this...I'll take all you got! So a mix Tarn-X some apple vinegar.....what do they use on the really bad Lincoln cents that look ugly as well as toned like someone threw paint on a wall?
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 Posted 08/17/2017  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
Artificial color .
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 Posted 08/17/2017  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
Toning is nothing more than a chemical reaction to the inherent elements of a coin. I consider toning to be an abberation upon a coin due to improper storage, handling or artificially produced/introduced. I also consider it to be damage to the coin and in extreme cases such as "rainbow" toning on a copper(bronze) metal as Unnatural, much the same as if it were the bluish/green copper oxide, in lay terms, rust! Because it is therefore a damaged coin, value plummets. It would be quite the enlightening experience to apply such safe solutions a pure acetone or xylene to your 1910 cent and see what happens. Generally, those coins I've screwed with, the "pretty" colors will rub off with a dab of mineral oil or completely disappear leaving a two-toned disaster.

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 Posted 08/17/2017  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list
For 7 bucks. I'm buying this all day. I would still be happy with it. Well done IMO.
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 Posted 08/17/2017  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list
Doctor, remember, collect what you like. That's all that really matters. Enjoyment of the hobby should always be number one. Now if you are looking to make money, well, then you have to get very good, have a ton of knowledge, to discern what is original surfaces and what is not.

I also do be believe it has been dipped, but eye appeal to me is still nice IMO.

And Welcome to the community, this is the best coin collecting web site in the world.
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 Posted 08/17/2017  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
One problem we have here is the angled pictures. I can make ANY coin look cleaned with angles.

The toning pattern appears to be to fall within market acceptable allowances based on my "mental picture re-calibrations". HOWEVER, we really need to see better pictures to tell if it's a clean and retone job.....that said....>>

- Does the coin have cartwheel luster? Try to show it if it does.

- Give us pictures straight over the coin.

- Mind your lighting, don't over or under saturate the light.

- Crop the pictures to just the coin.

- Set your lighting to reveal any cartwheels that show (if it has any).

1910 Lincolns can tone beautifully because they sometimes show frosty luster (visible in the fields) similar to matte proofs. This type of surface is conducive to toning (increased surface area). The master hub and all other hubs/dies were very sharp in 1910. Many people find examples and think they're matte proofs due to the square rims and frosty fields.

I can see frosty fields on your coin. That's also the good news to go alone with what I consider is probably market acceptable toning. I think you might have a really amazing coin there - at least MS-64/65RB but we need more and better pictures.


Here's some examples of 1910's from my collection. Notice how you can see frosty fields and cartwheel spokes.



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 Posted 08/17/2017  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
A challenge for those that can detect cleaning and retoning. Has this coin been doctored?


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 Posted 08/17/2017  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Here's an example of how drastic lighting and camera angle can have on a coin - yes, this is the SAME coin:


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 Posted 08/18/2017  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Thanks JB! I just hope the OP comes back and sees it. He might well have an extremely nice, original coin there with market acceptable toning. Of course, the others may be correct too. It's just very difficult to make absolute conclusions based on what we've been given. The OP mentioned "cartwheels" so perhaps his pictures aren't showing us what we need to see. Nonetheless, based on what I can see combined with the statement on cartwheels, I'd say there's a 60% chance his coin is a stellar example of a toned 1910. JMHO
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 Posted 08/18/2017  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
The toning pattern (color progression) of the OP coin matches many that I've owned or seen. Here is a 1918-S I own, it's in an NGC slab now. The progression appears to fall within market acceptability.


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I just hope the OP comes back and sees it. He might well have an extremely nice, original coin there with market acceptable toning.
I hope so, too, and I agree.
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