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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This mentality has become ridiculous. The grade is the grade. If you really think that all that matters is the arbitrary grade assigned by a third party... Then I suppose numismatics is just dead and rotting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
Quote:Red Book prices are way out of line. Look here and ebay sold values http://www.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices/fmv.shtml The only values that matter are what people will pay. That means auction results. Check ebay completed auctions in the Advanced listings. And Heritage auction results. Quote: Then I suppose numismatics is just dead and rotting. If that's the case then philatelics must be mulch.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
Which company usually gives the top grades?
The one that gets the best coins.
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Quote: The grade is the grade. If you really think that all that matters is the arbitrary grade assigned by a third party There's nothing arbitrary about the grades
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
If there were nothing arbitrary about grading, all TPG's would always give the same grade every time. Nothing, in reality, could be further from the truth. In fact, the only consistency in grading is that it's completely arbitrary interpretation of the loosest of standards. If it weren't, this thread wouldn't be happening.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1026 Posts |
Well after seeing that you must pay to join the grading companies I think I will pass and if I ever sell them people can make up their own mind with pictures. Also see you are correct the Red Book has the price for these way up there compared to what I see them selling for now that I have looked at some places. So see no point in getting them graded they are in perfect condition though. I am 68 years old bought them when I was around 22 years old.
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Bedrock of the Community
13014 Posts |
Quote:If there were nothing arbitrary about grading, all TPG's would always give the same grade every time. They do the vast majority of the time if you send it to the same company. Only the internet makes the crackout game sound easy.
Edited by basebal21 09/29/2017 4:30 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1261 Posts |
I can understand where Brucec is coming from. I've seen a bunch of slabbed coins lately that I thought were under graded. I'd change the question from which ones give the top grades to which ones grade most "accurately." That's an entire thread in and of itself.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: I've seen a bunch of slabbed coins lately that I thought were under graded. They've been very tight. In my opinion too tight. A lot of submitters have said the same. There certainly is a disconnect between active users and ones who just judge from pictures thinking it tells the whole story.
Edited by basebal21 09/30/2017 12:57 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
"Which Company Usually Gives the Top Grades?" Perhaps it the TPGrader with the poorest reputation. That is why basement slabbers have been able to get some market share; they more often grade what is submitted to them more optimistically. That is the temptation they face to get more business. Learn to do your own grading instead, unless you are selling via ebay. You will need to know the grade accurately yourself, if you are buying coins raw.
Edited by sel_69l 09/30/2017 06:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7375 Posts |
ANACS doesn't require a membership to send in coins. They've been pretty accurate the few times I've used them. Have heard they're pretty good at grading Morgans.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
Quote: They've been very tight. In my opinion too tight. A lot of submitters have said the same. IMO they are getting BACK to where they used to be. They had loosened up too much and are now "restoring order".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1261 Posts |
Quote: They had loosened up too much and are now "restoring order". My only comment to this is I've seen so many obvious cleaned coins in straight PCGS holders recently, mostly in Seated and Trade dollars but also in other series too. They may be tight on their technical grading with details but they have certainly loosened up regarding cleaned coins. Other grading services may be doing it too but I've witnessed it mostly with PCGS.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Well I use to be a ANA member see on NGC that if you are an ANA member you can send coins in for grading so I joined ANA again guess I will send the 3 Morgans in to be graded just to see what grade they are very clean coins with no marks.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: They may be tight on their technical grading with details but they have certainly loosened up regarding cleaned coins. They haven't. Send a submission in and see if they all come back straight graded. Really if you want to get technical though pretty much every seated and Trade dollar has been cleaned at one point in it's history, only exceptions might be the top MS coins.
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