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Gold Liberty Head $10 Eagle Underweight Query

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 Posted 12/18/2017  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Underweight, severely missing details on the obverse (Most of the hair curls behind the neck polished away on the die), denticals look bad, eagles body and tail missing below the shield. 99.99% sure this is a fake.
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 Posted 12/18/2017  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
It's fake. Without knowing the weight, which we do, this is easily spotted as a plated piece. The grey area on the reverse is where that plating has worn off, probably intentionally to prove falsehood by some previous owner.
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 Posted 12/18/2017  07:23 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Yes, I agree with the above comments. Sorry to say this piece is counterfeit.
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 Posted 12/18/2017  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ccbemmy to your friends list
Thanks all, a bit disappointing but fears confirmed and can move on. Can anyone tell me what the base metal is likely to be?
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 Posted 12/18/2017  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list




to the CCF!
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 Posted 12/18/2017  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
To be that close to the real weight, unless it is thicker than normal probably a lead based pewter. (Lead, tin and zinc)
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 Posted 12/23/2017  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
It is fake. Notice the lack of detail and relief on the obverse.
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 Posted 12/23/2017  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Even if it had a lead core, it would still weigh less than 12 grams.

Having a weight of 15.9 grams means that the core is denser than lead.
Thus,
the core is probably tungsten (with a gold plating)
or
the core is composed of gold with a fineness of about 850, (not worth taking the effort to make such an alloy).
Hence the coin is most probably a little thinner - (difficult to measure accurately), in the order 0.1 millimeter.

XRF may not be of much use, due to the possibility of being plated with 900 fine gold.

The next best test is to do a comparative ring tone.
Take it to a bullion dealer or a coin dealer. and compare with a genuine coin.

Such a test, all test being equal, would prove one of the below:-
the coin is slightly thinner,
the core is less dense,
The core is composed of tungsten, (ring tone would be dull).

Having said all of that, I think that it is a fake anyway. ,
Conder101 has said it right, due to lack of design detail.
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 Posted 12/24/2017  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
It could also be slightly thicker and/or larger in diameter than spec nominal. Larger sizes sizes open up an array of possible compositions.
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 Posted 12/25/2017  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
100% sure it's fake. Bad details and has that counterfeit "look."
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 Posted 12/26/2017  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Since this coin is a fake it would probably be a good idea to have the sovereigns checked out as well.
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 Posted 12/27/2017  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

Quote:
Since this coin is a fake it would probably be a good idea to have the sovereigns checked out as well.
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 Posted 12/27/2017  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list
Too bad. This happens way too much.
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 Posted 12/27/2017  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Amen. What a country.
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