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Pillar of the Community
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Hopefully it looks good when you get it. They have a liberal return policy, so not much risk.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Let us know how this purchase works out for you. Despite GSC's less than stellar reputation people do occasionally get good deals through them. GSC is well known as a shill bidder so former auction resuklts for coins they have sold mean next to nothing.
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BH1964 - wow, shill bidding on ebay seems a no win situation! if they shill bidded those other coins, we should expect to see them back up for sale soon...but then again they'd have to hold on to them for months or longer to try and hide this scam behavior. mind if I ask how you happen to come by this information? thanks (caveat emptor!) Edited by one_fine_dime
01/21/2018 11:07 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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"not even bothering w/ the late date mercs"
My personal Mercury buying habits of late has been the opposite of this... I have been snatching up as many FSB later date Mercs on the cheap as I can for TWO reasons, first, because I feel the later date FSB Mercs might be much more difficult to locate than collectors realise due to older dies being used over and over, and secondly, because they ain't making them any more.
But, don't tell anyone so I can get them all myself!
Les
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Bedrock of the Community
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vf30-35
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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....we should expect to see them back up for sale soon...but then again they'd have to hold on to them for months or longer to try and hide this scam behavior. mind if I ask how you happen to come by this information? Not necessarily. The concept of shill bidding involves NOT winning auctions but rather to push the hammer price to higher levels. Tribal knowledge. If you bid to the level you are comfortable paying then shill bidding should be of little concern. As an aspiring numismatist, do not get involved in bidding wars. They are a losing proposition even if you win. |
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I've also been doing what merclover stated, picking up several of the 1935 and up mercs with FSB in the past 2 months. I have bought 2 coins from this seller in the past, and was happy with both purchases. One was a mint state 1929 SLQ and the other was a FBL 1950 Franklin.
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Rest in Peace
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IMHO, I see the coin you bought as a VF-35 , NOT a solid 40. Quote:
... I have been snatching up as many FSB later date Mercs on the cheap as I can for TWO reasons, first, because I feel the later date FSB Mercs might be much more difficult to locate than collectors realize due to older dies being used over and over, and secondly, because they ain't making them any more. Yes , I agree . Would be buying them myself but I'm using all my money for finishing my WLH collection .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree VF-35, super example.
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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just me but I would not touch anything by this company. they tend to photograph them in order to hide flaws using lighting and other techniques
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the additional thoughts on this one. I'm not necessarily surprised that it seems as many say VF-35 as XF-40. I've been looking at XF-40 (and VF-35) PCGS graded coins and they really do vary quite a lot: https://www.PCGS.com/auctionprices/...ms/4958/4959For instance, I can't say this one is a higher grade than the coin I just bought (and it has a CAC sticker!): https://coins.ha.com/itm/mercury-di...Lot=1x=0&y=0...and there are a number of others like this too. Of course, "buy the coin not the holder" (and in this case my coin isn't even in a holder!). The below image is from The Complete Guide to Mercury Dimes (2nd edition) by David Lange. It does appear this reference holds the XF-40 to a higher standard compared to PCGS (at least consistently for the 1926-S specimens that one can peruse in the first link above). I'm very interested to hear what criteria others use for discerning the difference between a VF-35 and an XF-40. BH1964 - regarding my comment on the potential shill bidding of Great Southern, what I meant was that these folks sell a LOT of coins, and if they consistently shill bid, then they would have to "win" at least some of these auctions, and if that were the case, then they'd have to squirrel away the coins they won or else folks would keep seeing the same coins for sale. I mean how could they shill bid and just always "push the hammer price to higher levels" w/o sometimes actually winning their own auctions. See what I mean? |
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Everyone has a different grading system, I check the hair details around the forehead and temple area when grading, comparing a VF 35 and EF 40, if there's enough raise details around that area I give it a extra point. The Phrygian cap and motto also has more detail than a VF-35 coin, check out the photograde app from PCGS.
The reverse need to have more separations between the "sticks" in order for me to get a EF-40. VF-35 has little less and is flatter in details.
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Pillar of the Community
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VF-30 or 35 sounds about right. Tough date for sure!
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Pillar of the Community
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Received the coin today! These are my own photos for comparison. Coin looks to be original from what I can tell. Very subtle scratch just off the bridge of her nose. Nonetheless, I think it's a keeper.   Thanks for your insights on discerning grade variation btw 35 and 40 macmercury, much appreciated! I do use the PCGS Photograde app, though every coin has its nuances. Edited by one_fine_dime
01/25/2018 11:34 pm
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