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1943-S Florins

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 Posted 01/02/2006  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
NO MORE!!!! Lim118 please, no more! You have to be an agent for the RAM and this is torture at its finest!!!!
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 Posted 01/03/2006  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigfella to your friends list
There is an interesting story as to how the USA did a deal with us Aussies to mint coins for us. Other Aussies may like to fill in the blanks here.

To put is simply we ran out of silver and man power to make coins during the war. We asked the good old USA to do us Aussies a favour which in your generosity you obliged. You supplied the manpower...the presses and the silver. The only way we could pay you back was to melt down our sterling silver coins and remake then at 50% silver and send to you the left over silver to pay our debt.
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 Posted 01/03/2006  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Looks like we may have to work out something else now!!! Quite a few U.S. collectors starting Aussie collections and the biggest problem we are encountering is that YOU (Australia) has WAY to MUCH to offer!!! So many coins, so little time and so little money! I need another job!
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 Posted 01/03/2006  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list
Crystalk64 make it easy on yourself forget about the decimal coins and stick with the beautiful pre-decimal ones like above.
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 Posted 01/11/2006  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruzi to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by lim118

1943-S-Florins

Florins with the "S " mint mark was struck at the San Francisco Mint in the US.Mintage of 11,000,000. This is a nice Choice UNC one and would have made GEM if not for a tiny carbon spot at 9.00 O'Clock.



Sorry Lim, that coin has been dipped, half the detail is missing, be lucky to go Unc now .
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 Posted 01/11/2006  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list
Hello Cruzi....great to see you here as well...

I bow to your superior knowledge and experience when it comes to Aussie coins (for that matter any coins)and I am sure members here will benefit from it instead of listening to half baked potatoes like me. It is indeed heartening to note well known numismatists from Downunder are joining up and posting. This will make the efforts of promoting our coinage to fellow collectors around the world a lot easier.
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 Posted 01/11/2006  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

quote:
Sorry Lim, that coin has been dipped, half the detail is missing, be lucky to go Unc now


It could also be just the photo. I take about 100 coin photos a day and have seen many come out looking that way, until you adjust the light a little bit, then they look right.
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 Posted 01/11/2006  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruzi to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by bobby131313


quote:
Sorry Lim, that coin has been dipped, half the detail is missing, be lucky to go Unc now


It could also be just the photo. I take about 100 coin photos a day and have seen many come out looking that way, until you adjust the light a little bit, then they look right.



The 1943S and 1944S are known for poor quality of strike and fantastic "cartwheel" lustre on high grade coins.

The eveness of tone, lack of cartwheeling, the lack of detail in fact the "roundness" of all the detail shows the coin has been over dipped.

I take about a squillion coin pictures so the effects of lighting etc etc are well known to me.
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 Posted 01/13/2006  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruzi to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Bigfella

There is an interesting story as to how the USA did a deal with us Aussies to mint coins for us. Other Aussies may like to fill in the blanks here.

To put is simply we ran out of silver and man power to make coins during the war. We asked the good old USA to do us Aussies a favour which in your generosity you obliged. You supplied the manpower...the presses and the silver. The only way we could pay you back was to melt down our sterling silver coins and remake then at 50% silver and send to you the left over silver to pay our debt.



The arrival of US servicemen in Australia in 1942 (Over-sexed, over-paid and over-here) literaly caused us to run out of money. The Melbourne and Perth Mints could not cope and The Royal Mint was split up around a few locations in London because of the Blitz.

So under the "Lend-Lease" arrangments we bought "some 6 million pounds worth of coins" from the US mints at Denver and San Fransisco.

After WWII finished we had plenty of coins and we did the change over to 50% in 1946. The RBA was removing the old 92.5% coins extracting excess silver and re-issung the 50% coins.

This was going well until around 1950, the UN (US) had entered Korea and badly needed wool for winter uniforms. This caused such a boom in Australia (we were riding on the sheeps back), that the RBA had to re-issue all the 92.5 coinage it had collected in 1950 and turn to The Royal Mint for the 1951 PL coins.

Once the Korean war was over we once again had enough coinage for Australia to ship back to the US "some 6 million pounds worth of silver" in 1956.

The US has had more than just minted coins for Australia, it has influenced other events as well.
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 Posted 01/17/2006  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list
Cruzi, thankyou for the history lession, I enjoyed it.
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 Posted 02/01/2006  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coggie59 to your friends list
thanks for the info. great site still need info on the obverse strike thanks alot. coggie {jeff}
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 Posted 02/02/2006  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruzi to your friends list
Grading the George VI obverse is one of the most difficult challenges that face Australian collectors.

1943-S-Florins

The flat round portrait lacks the definate high points like the George V design. To make matters worse the depth and quality of the strike in the series varies quite markedly.

If you look at the George VI shilling issues here there is some pics and some grading tips for the obv. The tips are pretty basic and more or less relate to all George VI obverses. Dunno if the site has the florins or 3d updated yet.

With the smaller coins, 6d and 3d the detail can be be even more varied and these are even more difficult to grade.
For example I have the worlds worst known 1939 Unc 6d. The obv portrait is lacking in almost all detail, the reverse has badly mashed dentcles and the star is flat. All the resault of worn dies and bad strike. At first glance this coin be lucky to go VF but closer examination shows the coin has not seen any circ at all.

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 Posted 02/03/2006  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DondaLonda to your friends list
Wow, I'm loving the history lessons but it seems that everyone talks in another language. I have no idea about half of the stuff you are all saying. I love hearing about Australian History though... :)
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 Posted 02/03/2006  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grendelfreak to your friends list
DondaLonda just nod your head and hope teacher does not ask you some questions :P

Just read around this website, the glossary is a good start.
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 Posted 02/03/2006  07:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coggie59 to your friends list
thanks cruzi I suspect that since mine were minted in frisco and the war and all that what I have is a weak strike . will study it under more magnification great history thanks coggie
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