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Interpreting Bids (Final $638.01)

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 Posted 06/21/2008  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

Someone covered c***d, showing his max bid was $425. Yes, I agree with KurtS that it is going similar to most of these. I think you can relax a little.

Jim
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 Posted 06/21/2008  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
ya but O***G max is $426.88, if it was higher then his bid would be $430 right now. If someone were to bid $431.88 they would be the high bidder.
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 Posted 06/21/2008  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list

Quote:
if someone were to bid $431.88 they would be the high bidder.


You should try it.
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 Posted 06/21/2008  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

Chrsb, True! I noticed that also. It can be entertaining when forum members are the seller or buyer or both. Not to watch the agony! but just more of a personal interest I guess. Maybe o***g is a dealer and going by the sheets which is low on these IMO and will drop out. Gee, a whole day and 6 hrs to go!

I noticed that in the closed ebay live Superior auction that a PCGS 65 Red sold for $700 + 22% buyers fee = $854 and the PCGS guide ( which most think is overvalued) is right on @ $ 850. For the 65RB, it is valued @ $575.

The value of dies 2,3,and 8 seem to be making gains also on ebay. Sometimes the seller is trying to scam someone into thinking it is #1, but even when listed as an alternate die variety, there is a lot of interest.Any thoughts on them?

Jim
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 Posted 06/21/2008  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
I would but will be out bid, this will complete somewhere between $650 and $750(maybe $800 depending on interest). If you could show the toning better in the pics I would guess a higher final bid. I remember when you bought this, you should cover your $697 investment. Die 1 and 4 are the ones I am missing for my collection and was shopping for a 1 for awhile, but decided to go in another direction. A little due diligence shows where you will end up-(toning could go in your favor depending on the buyers)
http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-DOUBLE-DIE...64_W0QQitemZ150258613977QQihZ005QQcategoryZ31373QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/44...hZ005QQitemZ150252448204QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-Lincoln-Ce...ed_W0QQitemZ380034869779QQihZ025QQcategoryZ31373QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-DDO-Lincol...ix_W0QQitemZ270241622932QQihZ017QQcategoryZ524QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Good luck!
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 Posted 06/21/2008  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
Jim,

Ya I have watched Die#3 go for #1 money, someone will be disappointed when they go to sell that and recover their initial investment. Most of those auctions are a result of ignorance and manipulation. Not everybody owns a Cherry Pickers Guide to see what those number mean on the slab, all they see is DDO. I think FS numbers have changed reciently also, making it even more difficult to tell what is really for sale.

I have been actively looking for a die #4 for ever, I won one only to find out it was not it (the seller refunded the difference to me, very nice guy who stood by his word). If I were to buy a die 1 I would go for a raw one with a return policy to save money. I am confident in my knowledge to differentiate the dies to save a few bucks. I am interested in this auction, if the reverse were toned also I might be more inclined to bid on it.

As for the other dies, some of them are quit nice and are gaining value. Now that PCGS and NGC have started attributing some of these dies and adding them to the registry people are looking to buy them, many who would have never known other dies exist.
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 Posted 06/21/2008  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

I Guess this is where one uses the emoticon ! Until the final minutes.

Jim
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 Posted 06/21/2008  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Ah, easy to find. I think the inclusion of the PCGS site url is an excellent idea.
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 Posted 06/21/2008  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
chrs,


Quote:
if the reverse were toned also I might be more inclined to bid on it.


It is. The reverse has nice, light purplish-pink toning (in the fields) that I was unable to photograph.
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06/22/2008 12:16 am
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 Posted 06/22/2008  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

C***D is back and determined, maybe a bidding battle shaping up.
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 Posted 06/22/2008  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list
Doncha love it?
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 Posted 06/22/2008  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
It made the most watched list-
http://www.coincommunity.com/most_watched/
How many watchers do you have on it?
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 Posted 06/22/2008  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list
Sorta fun to follow this one!
I imagine someone's lurking in the background, ready to snipe.
So I'll bet in the final minutes this gets up over $600
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 Posted 06/22/2008  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list

Probably most of the active forum members. I Want to see if C***D comes back for a third run at it. I am glad that USAP let all of us in on it from the seller's side. Much more fun to buy than sell I think Sean, only a few hrs to go!

Jim
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 Posted 06/22/2008  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
Well, it sold for $638.01, so between ebay fees, shipping and/or PayPal fees I probably lost about $90-100 on the deal.

I guess it's not the end of the world, but it still hurts. That's about the cost of a nice dinner, movie and a couple of drinks for two. I guess I can cut my wife off for a night and we'll call it even.

Thanks for the input, guys.
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