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Hobo Nickels

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 Posted 06/22/2008  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwhitman to your friends list
I have never seen anything like that before. I have been going to antique shows for 40 years and have never seen anything like that. I have seen 'trap art', but that has all been wood.
Quite interesting. THANX for posting!
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 Posted 06/22/2008  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguy47 to your friends list
You may not ever see them unless you get them from someone who carves them. I've been to a zillion coin shops and shows and antique and re-sale shops, and I've never seen one for sale. ebay has them, but most of them are really low quality. Now and then you see a nice one there, but they usually sell for quite a bit when they do. I've only sold one of mine, and kind of wished I hadn't now...

Tom
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 Posted 06/26/2008  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikePezak to your friends list
I've been carving at coin shows here in the Las Vegas area and you would be surprised at how many long time coin collectors I meet that have never seen a hobo nickel... ever. Come and visit our yahoo group, we have a lot of photos of our carving to look at.
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 Posted 07/03/2008  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ColinG to your friends list
There are quite a few in Heritage's archives.

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 Posted 07/04/2008  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenny_1745 to your friends list
Do you use handtools or a dremel to carve them?
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 Posted 07/04/2008  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikePezak to your friends list
Hi Kenny,

I use hand tools to carve. I do know some carvers that use dremal tools to carve and do a fairly good job but to get extreme detail hand tools are the only way to go.
Mike.
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 Posted 07/04/2008  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noah123 to your friends list
HEy mike can you send me the link in an e-mail?
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 Posted 07/04/2008  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kenny_1745 to your friends list
What kind of hand tools do you use? This is something that I've been interested in learning to do for quite a while.
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 Posted 07/04/2008  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikePezak to your friends list
Hi Kenny and Noah,

I use gravers which are little chisel type tools used for engraving. I make most of my own tools from tool steel and just shape them and sharpen them for what I need.
Noah you can email me at mikepezak at, you know the @sigh, at yahoo.com.
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 Posted 07/06/2008  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikePezak to your friends list
Hi echizento,

The designs are carved into the coin by removing the metal at different levels to produce the desired results. I have made nickels where I have added metal to the coin but those were just pieces of the design, the best example would be Skippy, it was a teenager kid from back in the 30's or 40's wearing a propeller beanie and I made the propeller in 14Kt. gold and made it spin. That was just an add on part, there are also techniques of raising metal from the coin. This technique is usually seen in ears, nostrils, hat brims, it's difficult to see the results in a photo unless the coin is taken from many different angles so that the raised metal is visible.


here is a pic of Skippy, the propeller is clearly an added piece to the coin. The other pic are of raised metal carving, you'll notice it most on the ears. One the cowboy looking picture I raised the metal for the hatband 90% to the coin and also did the same thing to the ear, then raised the metal at the bottom of his hair and the top of the collar so that all would stand out from the coin. On most raised metal nickels you usually see the metal raised about a millimeter off the coin at the most..I go to extremes with my carvings and try to put the metal to it's limits before carving. To give you some reference point as to how much the metal is raised, if I put one of my nickels in a regular airtite holder the ear breaks the plastic.

In one of the pictures there is a guy with a curly eyebrow and cookie duster, the ends of the hair on both of those is raised away from the coin so that you can actually look under the hair, yet it's difficult to see in the photo


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Hope this answers your question.
Have a good day
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 Posted 07/08/2008  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ColinG to your friends list
This may be a stupid question but is carving Hobo nickels legal? Do they retain their legal tender status after carving?
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 Posted 07/10/2008  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikePezak to your friends list
Hi Collin,
It's not a stupid question at all and the answer is nope it's not illegal to carve coins. I've been asked that question many times and always knew it wasn't illegal but really didn't know why. I grew up like everyone else believing that "IT'S ILLEGAL TO ALTER MONEY" and thinking that somehow, when we were kids, the coin police would come and arrest us for putting pennies on the railroad tracks during the boring days of summer. lol
Then one night I was watching TV and the local channel had a show telling about interesting places to visit in Nevada. This episode had to do with the Carson City mint and it's history and even though I am not a coin collector I love shows about how things are made and how changes came about. So, in this episode they explained how when they first started minting coins, the edges of the coins were smooth. The first coins that were minted,were made from silver or gold, well it seems the bad guys at the time would shave the edges and collect the shavings then cash them in at the assay office. This was a real problem for the mint and the bankers and something had to be done about it because at that time, there was no law on the books about what was being done. In steps the lawmakers and they come up with a law... get ready for this because it is going to make sense out of the law we all think we grew up with, remember...."it's illegal to alter money" ...
We'll get to the law in a minute after this part of the story because it's really neat. So the mint was looking into solving this problem and the word was out that they were looking help among other mints. So one day they were contacted by I think it was a dutch mint and this mint told that mint they solved that problem and they did it by putting READING on the edge of the coin. READING on a coin is the little lines on the edge of the coin...with READING it would be obvious to anyone, bankers, barkeepers and any other business, if the coin was shaved and thats why we have those rough edges on coins.
Ok back to the law...so they wrote this law. this isn't word for word but it will give you the meaning of that law. "It is illegal to shave, file, drill or alter money in any way (and here's the part we never hear) for the purpose to deceive, fraud or cheat someone"... so it's not illegal to carve coins. If I used my skills to alter a date or add a mint mark in order to give someone the impression that the coin is something it's not for the reason to get money from some "sucker" that would fall for it....then I would be breaking that law big time.

I don't know if they retain their legal tender status, maybe Tom or one of the other coin collectors can shed some light on that...thats a good question.
In my opinion. I don't think it matters, at the point of a finished carving, it's not about the coin anymore...the coin was mearly a canvass that the carver gets to play on with his carving. It's all about Art from that point on. Is it still legal tender? beats me but anytime anyone wants to spend the money on one of my carvings to see if he or she can spend it as a nickel, I have a whole bunch of nickels for sale for them to try...lol
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 Posted 07/19/2008  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguy47 to your friends list
I think (not sure) that they do maintain their legal tender status. If anyone wanted to make an issue out of it they probably wouldn't be forced to accept the piece, but I would think that it would still be legal tender.

Incidentally, Mike is right about the coins, but the laws pertaining to paper money are completely different. It is absolutely illegal to alter paper money in any way shape of form. Even if you only mark a dollar bill with a pen, it's illegal. It's illegal to alter it, it's illegal to possess it, and it's illegal to use it. Obviously, that law isn't strictly enforced, but that's how the law reads.

Tom
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 Posted 07/19/2008  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Master Gardener to your friends list
You should do a few trillion dollar coins to give to the Treasury Dept. to pay off the national debt to the private federal reserve system- I'm sure the common Citizen would want this done if they knew better.
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 Posted 07/20/2008  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguy47 to your friends list
This is my latest one.

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