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1958 D Franklin Half PCGS Grade Guesses

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 Posted 08/15/2018  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
with overexposed photos it is difficult to tell: if I had to make a guess based ONLY on these photos I would say MS61 -- a really worn die strike, look at the rev. eagle, and lots of nicks on the bell bottom edge. Better photos would help tremendously -- shoot in natural light, do not use the flash, and do not point any light source directly at the slab.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list
Based on current photo's, I'll say MS62.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
No way to grade from these photos.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pndedy to your friends list
Sorry about the poor photos, tough with the holder... here are some better ones < I hope..
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 Posted 08/16/2018  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
62, lots of issues.
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 Posted 08/16/2018  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pndedy to your friends list
Here is the grade.
With all the issues this coin has, how can it be a "MS" grade?
Is it because of the sharpness of the strike, or something else?
I am learning, please excuse my ignorance.

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 Posted 08/16/2018  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pndedy to your friends list
when holding this coin in hand, it has fantastic eye appeal, I'm guessing that is the reason for the MS grade. putting it under the microscope reveals all its " issues"
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 Posted 08/16/2018  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
A coin can have a theoretical infinite amount of "issues" and still be considered MS. What makes a coin MS Is not the amount of ticks, dings, scratches, etc it has, but rather the amount lf wear it has. If you look at pictures of AU-58 Morgan dollars, then MS-60 Morgan dollars, the 58's are usually going to look significantly better, but are only geld back because theyve been lightly circulated and have a little bit of wear on the highest points. A deep enough scratch, however, can give an uncirculated coin a "details" grade, but scratches like that are nearly always intentional, not from incidental contact from other coins.
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AdamE Thank you for the detailed answer to my questions.
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When it comes to determining whether a coin is circulated or uncirculated, yes. The bag marks, ticks, etc. come into account when deciding exactly what number the coin deserves from 60-70. For a circulated coin, the amount of wear is going to be the most important factor in deciding the grade from 1-58.
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That grade is unbelievable, at least to me.
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It was from 30 years ago, I'm guessing the standard has risen since then.
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PCGS fell asleep at the wheel again . MS-61 would have been more like it .
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Quote:
It was from 30 years ago, I'm guessing the standard has risen since then.


Actually the standards have gotten looser. For example, many coins that graded MS-63, say, 25 years ago, would now grade MS-64. Nonetheless, I think this coin is overgraded. IMO, grade is more like MS-62.

And yes, it can be considered MS as long as there's no wear.
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