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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The listing says "Payment must be made within 24hrs or I will relist" near the bottom, so maybe he does have problems with the winners paying on time. Quote:
I have no idea where hes getting that 2500 value from From the PCGS certification page: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/35707262 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I did a little digging and found the same exact coin sold from a different seller a month ago, the bidders are private but this winning bid has the same amount of feedback as the person whos currently trying to sell the coin... https://www.ebay.com/itm/1855-S-ARR...43663.l44720Quote:From the PCGS certification page: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/35707262 He couldnt possibly expect a retail price guide to have an influence on the bidding, putting price guide values in the title on a coin like this is honestly a deterrent for me. I think the vast majority of people who are even considering buying coins of this value will either have a greysheet subscription or know how to look up past auctions on ebay, which considering how many times hes sold and relisted it put enough history on this particular coin in this particular grade that it's going to be tough to even reach 2k again, let alone get anywhere close to that "price guide" value. Edited by Adam_E
08/29/2018 9:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3479 Posts |
I have a brilliant idea. Let's ask him. Someone send the guy a polite, well-written question and ask him what's going on with the coin and see if his response is feasible. I've done this before with mixed results. Some responses make sense while others, they just,.... yeah.
Who wants to volunteer?
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Pillar of the Community
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Message sent - I'll let ya know what happens......
{New message to: casedcoins
Hello, was wondering if this is the same coin you have repeatedly sold and then relisted? Before I bid I was wondering if this is a stock photo or has all previous transactions fallen through and never were completed? Thanks you,
Mark}
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well he's doing better this time, it's up over $2K, not as high as the first time yet but he may get there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like the same bidder y***m is giving it a second try, currently $300 higher than their last winning bid.  95% bidding activity with seller, and 23 bid retractions. That does smell of shill. |
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Pillar of the Community
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New message to: casedcoins He/She never messaged me back and with an hour to go I doubt if that will happen. If I really wanted to sell that coin I'd be answering all questions ASAP. Some times people will list a rare coin to draw people in with hopes of the possible bidders/watchers will look at the rest of their items for sale/auction. |
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CCF Advertiser
United States
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When shillers do their job all too well, they end up buying the coin. Now, the transaction has to be cancelled to not pay the ebay fees, so how many times does ebay see this happen with the same account before banning them all? |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I was reading some comments here and it made me think. Is he trying to inflate/lower the value for this year/mm on PCGS and other websites that use sold prices to determine value? PCGS does publish sold auction prices from ebay, Heritage, etc.. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Seems like an odd objective. That data is also available on the page for this cert number, so its unusual history is public. But for the general year/mint, it might have an impact. What would one have to gain from that, for just one issue?
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Bedrock of the Community
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What would one have to gain from that, for just one issue? In general they can either really love that issue or more likely be trying to drive the price down to corner the market. If they control enough they get to set the price, and if its a better date it will drag some more commons down as well. I don't think that's it here, if that is the plan I don't see how that would ever work |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The winning bidder on their most recent auction has 98% bid activity with this seller, 23 bid retractions in 6 months and 16 bids on this auction alone. Sheesh!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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And it is up again, for the 5th time!
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Pillar of the Community
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But now 35$ shipping - must be a big box for a small coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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His "shill bidders" aren't doing their jobs! Quote:
Looks like the same bidder y***m is giving it a second try, currently $300 higher than their last winning bid. 95% bidding activity with seller, and 23 bid retractions. That does smell of shill. |
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