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Pillar of the Community
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All the stuff he does after is still part of the transaction. Therefore, by this reasoning, one should be able to buy and properly receive an item from ebay, yet still give negative feedback to the seller if it's warranted. |
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United States
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Quote:Therefore, by this reasoning, one should be able to buy and properly receive an item from ebay, yet still give negative feedback to the seller if it's warranted. If the item was properly received, a negative feedback would not be neccesary...unless he is one of those bad buyers that does not deserve feedback upon payment. |
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United States
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As mentioned before, ideally, a buyer should get feedback after they post payment because ideally, the buyer's last communication with the seller is usually when they make that payment. Now I understand the reservations of the seller in not wanting to leave feedback until the transaction is completed which is completely reasonable. Reasonable to me is leaving feedback after the seller ships the item. At that point, the seller and buyer's obligations are completed. The new feedback system, for all its flaws, at least tries to address the retaliatory feedback problem. It's not all lose-lose. I also read with great interest the possible alternatives that people here have suggested as possible solutions that try to work to the benefit of the buyer and seller.
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Valued Member
 Philippines
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i haven't heard a news about boycott... well I'm here in the philippines... i have read lots of dissatisfaction about ebay and paypal and I do ride with those people too... I have googled "boycott ebay" and I came to this news you might be talking about.. http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/15/smb...sb/index.htmand here http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/06/smb...n=2008020711how I wish those sites mentioned as an alternate to ebay is atleast half huge.. someday they will and perhaps if ebay continues to focus only on satisfying their POCKETS! millions of sellers would transfer permanently.. Quote:Sellers seek alternatives Part-time vendor David Cox is one of those people. Last week, he concluded a 10-year run selling computer accessories on ebay and opened an $8-a-month account with OnlineAuction. Cox, of Marble Falls, Ark., said his new home reminds him of ebay's early days. "I feel they will be more responsible to me as the seller," Cox said. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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All the talk about cheesed off sellers and boycotts sure hasn't slowed down my buying on ebay. What I mean is that I have not seen any lack of goods or sellers where the items I buy are concerned. There will always be sellers there, and the ones that leave are the ones that can't hack it IMO. They will go to other sites that allow retaliatory feedback, but the buyers won't go there! All sellers, no buyers (except maybe other dealers) won't last long. |
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and the ones that leave are the ones that can't hack it IMO. Ratio, I would suggest you go to the ebay boards and read up some. There are tons of fine upstanding huge sellers that have had enough and they've left already. ebay has let Buy.com pad the listings with hundreds of thousands of free listings to pick up the slack. There's no nice way to say this but, for the most part you don't know what your talking about. I would suggest that if you want to continue in this topic constructively, take a few minutes and educate yourself first. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That's funny! You know what you are talking about from your point of view! I know from my point of view. Fact for me is that I have no issues finding sellers of items I like to buy on ebay. You can't twist your view to change that! LOL! I don't want to deal with sellers that feel retaliatory feedback should be the deal. No matter how "upstanding" you see these folks, they are not for me. Good riddance. Btw: Do YOU run your own successful business in the real world? Tell me I don't know what I am talking about... EDIT: I own a commercial/industrial construction outfit. My customer base is HARD to keep happy compared to ebay buyers. My customers are always right, and always happy. Edited by ratio411
08/24/2008 12:08 pm
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Locked
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and the ones that leave are the ones that can't hack it, IMO Just because you put "IMO" after it doesn't make it an opinion. Your stating a "fact" that is tremendously incorrect. Censoring sellers is wrong and a TON of them are leaving on principal, not because they "can't hack it" as you say. As I said, with a little education, you would know that. If you're OK with being silenced by Big Brother ebay and prefer not to stand up for your rights, then be a sheep. Tons of sellers are stepping up and saying enough is enough, they're standing up for themselves. Good for them. Sellers have been leaving for years. ebay just doesn't understand that sellers are their customers. They obviously don't need to kiss their butt, you know I'm all for ridding ebay of the slime, but they do need to show some respect. You say you treat your customers right and that's good. ebay has been disrespecting their customers (sellers) and look what's happening. I can't force you to understand any of this and I'm done trying. Edited by scubu
08/24/2008 12:42 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
671 Posts |
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Censoring sellers is wrong and a TON of them are leaving on principal, not because they "can't hack it" as you say. As I said, with a little education, you would know that. I couldn't agree more... Quote:
but the buyers
won't go there! I have not bought on ebay since that fateful day of May 19th (it has been great), and I know of many others who have been equally successful as buyers (if not more so) on the the other sites. ratio411, I really don't understand where you are getting your "numbers" and "stats". Just look at the stock slide for ebay that scubu showed you...those are the REAL numbers. |
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Valued Member
United States
201 Posts |
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Just because you put "IMO" after it doesn't make it an opinion. Your stating a "fact" that is tremendously incorrect. You do know what "IMO" means, right? Someone stated that, in their opinion, ebay sellers cannot hack it; you pronounce it fact and then call it incorrect and not factual.  There's a logical fallacy in there. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1208 Posts |
Steamwalker,
I notice that the "pro seller" side quite often comments
from a place of emotion, as opposed to logic.
I am getting out of this argument now, because I don't
want the emotion "hate" to smudge my reputation with
some of the board members on that half of the argument.
When I start feeling offended personally by emotional
statements, as I did earlier today... It is time to step
back.
I am done.
It's like the entire U.S. is right now... 50% Dem and
50% Republican. We're split, we're dug in, and we're never
going to change each other's minds.
Dave
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Locked
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There's a logical fallacy in there. The only fallacy is society brainwashing people into thinking opinions can't be wrong. They certain can, and very often are. You're "opinion" that sellers that are leaving can't hack it is in a lot of sellers cases just wrong. Plain and simple. To generalize like that and paint all seller that leave like this.... Quote:
There will always be sellers there, and the ones that leave
are the ones that can't hack it IMO. is nothing but sheer ignorance of the issues at hand. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1208 Posts |
Wow! I bow out of the thread on a neutral note, for
the sake of good relations, and I am still being cast
as "ignorant"!
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Locked
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Ignorant just means you don't know any better. Just like I am ignorant when it comes to industrial construction, you are ignorant as to why sellers have been leaving ebay. Don't take it personally. |
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Valued Member
United States
336 Posts |
there is a way it deals with non payment of the item sold.with how super slow the postal sys is any more.i not kidding on this.some one paid for a item I sold him and the postal sys took 2 weeks to deleave that payment by mail.what made it so bad I live in il.and the person lived in iowa.i could drive it in 4 hours!they took 2 weeks.i check the postal date mark.and watch out some times some one pays for there items on paypal and ebay does NOT pick this up.i email the guy and found out he paid by paypal a week before. don't trust ebay for letting you know about payment from paypal.this could get you in trouble for not sending it out right away. |
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