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Valued Member
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does it affect the grade or the value a LOT ?
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Moderator
 United States
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Don't forget to flatten those staples. John1  |
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Valued Member
Canada
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haha yeah, don't need to, it is en route for ICCS ! :D
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pics aren't the best, but I don't see obvious evidence of cleaning. How about some close-ups?
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Valued Member
Canada
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I don't got any I bought it in the same mall that I sent my lot for ICCS. I should get it back by two weeks max.. I'll post the result.. i
i think it is at least a XF-40 .. what's your opinion?
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Valued Member
Canada
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No question the coin has been cleaned. But details look AU for sure. Coins from that period would very rarely (almost never) remain naturally bright white like that. It becomes a question of the coin being dipped in a market-acceptable way, or has it been scrubbed or polished or treated with a harsh chemical. Based on the images, I would lean toward the latter.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I think it's critical to differentiate between dipping and cleaning.
I view them totally separate.
There is no doubt whatsoever this coin has been dipped, but that is OK.
I see (no hairlines from the pictures) zero evidence of cleaning.
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Valued Member
Canada
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I would say it has been dipped excessively. It has developed a weird hazy appearance that is unnatural. It wouldn't straight-grade at either NGC or PCGS. ICCS will probably net grade it and not mention the issue.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Mostly agree with everything Numiscat said except for I think ICCS will both net grade it an comment on the issue. In addition the market acceptability of this coin being cleaned(or whatever you would like to call it excessively dipped, etc) I believe it would not be market acceptable. The reason being this coin is much too high grade to ignore it. Yes in VF or below this could easily be market acceptable on these rare, old and desirable coins but on EF or higher where you have more discerning collectors you are losing alot of the value. Dipping a coin can enhance it's value sadly but in this case whoever did this ruined the coin to just a details coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Would love to see ICCS results if they are in. Let us know!
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Valued Member
Canada
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still waiting, it should be in this week or maximum next monday!
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Valued Member
Canada
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here's the ICCS results! [URL="https://ibb.co/7rgrSKT]  [/url] |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Net graded. See my comment above.
That coin has AU sharpness, not XF. The cleaning/excessive dipping was not mentioned.
The important part is it has great detail and you like it. Hope it finds a nice place in your new collection!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Awesome! Thanks for posting, wish your happy with the results!
I dont think ICCS comments due to the fact that almost all coins pre 1967 have been cleaned/dipped/restored at some point in their lifespan.
Great coin regardless. Its all about eye appeal I would say!
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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If a coin is wrongly graded, it is usually too high.
(Perhaps to encourage more collectors to submit coins for grading?)
This coin graded too low.
Tiara details quite sharp (obv.) crown details quite sharp (rev.)
I.C.C.S. was probably looking at the hair detail (obv.), and so it gets the grade you see.
I am thinking it may be a light strike on the highest points of the design, which in this case, happens to be the hair.
I am thinking that this coin is much closer to AU, with a slight rubbing in the fields to reduce some of the original mint luster. There is still some remaining original luster around the lettering (obv.) and leaves, (rev.) that is visible under the patina.
Probably had a light dip.
Edited by sel_69l
04/05/2019 11:48 pm
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