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Lincoln Blue-Green Toning Happens

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 Posted 09/29/2008  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thor to your friends list
Why are they rare?
I have seem them often enough to not give them a second thought. Copper naturally discolors like that.
I'm intriqued.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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Why are they rare?
I have seem them often enough to not give them a second thought. Copper naturally discolors like that.
I'm intriqued.


You've seen them often? Well, you're a very, very lucky person! I've looked though thousands and thousands of Lincolns and I may have 4-5 that have this toning. Copper does not "naturally discolor" like this at all. It typically oxidizes and turns brown or is exposed to moisture causing ugly verdigris. You must be confusing verdigris with toning.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thor to your friends list
I must be.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
A soak in MS70 will turn copper into that color.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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A soak in MS70 will turn copper into that color.


Really? Show me an example please.

I can tell you these coins have never been exposed to that. I pulled these from circulation....and they wouldn't even be worth the trouble.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Here's my favorite blue-green toner in my collection:

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 Posted 09/29/2008  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1sikevo to your friends list
The MS70 treated coins are actually bluish-purple on a red copper, not greenish.
I will try to find some from my experiments a few months ago. The trick is to get it on camera.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bowfin to your friends list
I'm not really into toned coins, but those are rather cool. I have gone through over 350,000 pennies (over 140 boxes) and never found any like that. As usual Thad, nice pics too.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Why are they rare?
I have seem them often enough to not give them a second thought. Copper naturally discolors like that.
I'm intriqued.

The reason they are rare is primarily due to the movement of the coinage. Light layers of Cupric Sulfates or Sulfites do not have time to accumulate so mostly wears off. And then too, the coin has to be exposed to the proper amount of moisture, Oxygen, Sulfur Oxides, etc and for a specific amount of time. In our chem labs we make Cupric Sulfate that has that excessively blue color but rarely on coins.
So Thad, just were did you get those anyway. Or did you make them? That 78 and 93 really looks like an artist rendition of a blue painting. Now if you contact the Franklin Mint you might want to have them produce some plates like that.
I've been collecting for well over 60 years now and only seen a few like that. Maybe not quite that blue, but a little like that.
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 Posted 09/29/2008  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
Here one of my recent purchases Thad-

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 Posted 09/29/2008  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Carl - The first two I pulled out of my pocket at the end of the day, lucky circulation finds. The 1956 I found at a local coin shop....it kind of stood out amongst the others in the box. LOL

I've fiddled around in the lab with AT before, but with ZERO luck. All I managed to do is turn cents black or just plain ugly. LOL
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 Posted 09/29/2008  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Oooo....Chris...that's a beauty man! I love that plum color with hints of blue-green!
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 Posted 09/29/2008  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mklpatrick to your friends list
I wish I wasn't color blind. I'd probably enjoy this thread a lot more.
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 Posted 09/30/2008  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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I wish I wasn't color blind. I'd probably enjoy this thread a lot more.



Don't worry about it. We are all just kidding you know. Color computer monitors haven't been invented yet.
And if they do invent them, Thad probably only had blue paint at home.
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 Posted 09/30/2008  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baomo to your friends list
I've found alot of those as well recently - probably 25 or so. I didn't think they were uncommon.
i wonder what conditions cause it naturally?...i guess its black oxide.
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