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Busting Open Mint Sets: What Would You Do?

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 Posted 11/07/2008  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
The specimen and PL coins are just stunning!
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 Posted 11/08/2008  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
Thanks, everyone! I might just go ahead and bust some sets open now.
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 Posted 11/08/2008  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list
I personally think the RCM puts out better product than the USM. Buying and busting is a great idea in my opinion, if that fits your need.
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 Posted 11/08/2008  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
halfabustisbetter- yeah, that is what I may just do. Honestly, it is just kind of funny that for many years in the 1970s and 80s, the dollar coin alone in BU goes for as much as the whole set.
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 Posted 11/08/2008  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list

Maybe like the auto industry: the sum of all parts, sold individually, exceeds the retail price of the whole car.

My gut feeling is that fewer collectors actually buy full Proof sets just to get one coin out of it. Perhaps they pay a small premium just for the coin they want. In that respect, opening a set and selling the coins individually may in fact make some sense. Regardless, I say go ahead and crack'm open. I do it myself; this is the only way I can capture all the details of the coins.

But be careful not to damage the coins...



Marc

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 Posted 11/08/2008  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tepritts to your friends list
Greetings:

I collect Lincoln cents and the only way to complete the series (San Francisco Mint) is to purchase the proof set. It used to be easy to pick up a single proof at shows, but with prices today the coin dealers really don't want to break-up proof sets.

I have no problem taking a hammer to the plastic to obtain desired coin.

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 Posted 11/08/2008  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list
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I LOVE THE 2003 DOLLAR! I have various proof sets and individual proof coins that I save for my daughter as she was born in 2003. Very good photography as well. wow! When I tried to photograph my proofs and specimens they ended up looking weird from reflections and even tiny bits of dust or whatever. Not an easy task but you have it mastered. What setup are you using to do that?
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 Posted 11/08/2008  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list
canadian_coins- that is a really good analogy! In fact, it only encourages me to bust 'em open.
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 Posted 11/08/2008  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list
Malissa and Archraz, thank you for your posts.

I take pictures or scans, depending on the results I get sometimes certain coins come out better in one way than the other. Generally, I favor my "old" HP Photosmart. Equipped with rudimentary equipment like a $20 tripod, I may take over 20 shots of the same coins at various angles. I favor diffuse lighting, inside the garage when the sun shines through the opened door. Don't worry, some of them come out pretty bad - dust, etc.

Some coins are best using a scanner, like the plasma coin:

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 Posted 11/17/2008  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list
I think it depends on whether the coin in question was only available as part of a mint set, or if it was a circulating coin.

Take, for example, the snowy owl dollar -- the only way to get it is to buy the mint set. You're a dollar collector. So, do you break open the set for the dollar, or do you leave it as is?

It all depends on what you'd do with the coin once you got it out. Do you put your coins into 2x2's, or into some sort of folder? If you do, then you will have noticable spaces where they are supposed to go, and you will want to add them.

But then, you wonder if you aren't actually losing money by breaking the set open, and therein lies the dilemma. Yes, you could recoup some of this money if you sell the other coins, but you have to find a buyer for them first. Conceivably, there may be a fifty-cent piece collector out there who would be glad to get the one you want to sell, and you may be able to get rid of the other coins the same way, but I think the likelihood of this would drop as you go down in the denominations, unless of course, there are short strikes in them, or some other reason people would want them.

Of course, then, your collection looks better because it's complete, and that might make you happy enough to ignore any shortfall you incur. If you're satisfied with that, fine.

Naturally, the easiest way around this is to buy the coin you want from someone else that has broken the set for a different coin they wanted. But, of course, this doesn't happen as often as one would like, and you might wait forever for the coin you want out of that year's set (although this has been shortened by being able to shop on the internet).

Personally, I don't break them. I do collect loonies and in the cases where there is a "mint set only" coin, what I do is scan a 2x2 on Paint, and put the image of the coin in question in the "hole". On the white part of the 2x2 scan where one would normally write, I do the usual write-up, but add the wording below, "ONLY AVAILABE IN MINT SET". I then print the scan, cut it out, and glue it to the front of a 2x2 and put that in my holder. I have the coin in question, but it is in the mint set, but the coin page still looks complete because of the placeholder I have made.

I find that this does the trick, and does it in a way that satisfies me.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list
WpgLwr, I'm not sure if that idea of scanning pics to put on 2 X 2s is genius or crazy. I'm sort of leaning to the latter, but....
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 Posted 11/21/2008  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karrlot to your friends list
Bust them open. If there are other coins in the set that you don't need, don't sell them. Start collecting them!
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 Posted 11/30/2008  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list
I have bought lots of sets and break out coins to complete collections like the Loon series of birds like the Jack miner goose ,the swan etc and put them in folders as tributaries if the mint puts out to many I don't care ,I just get the ones I like .
The 25 cent caribou is an example of a coin I like to have in my quarter collection , some years only available in sets.
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 Posted 01/16/2009  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chadcoins to your friends list
Im an avid collector of Canadian pl sets[un cir sets] This has been an unexplored area due to a poor reputation by some collectors as low quality.To the bright side I have many sets that collectors would dream of owning due to there rarities I got for bargain prices.Many of these rare sets get cut up and sent to certification services to fill the slot on many coin binders.My goal is to keep them intact and making the best collection of these known in Canadian content.As for the very common sets,cut as many as you want.I have had dealers sell special sets to me, due to preserving this heritage.
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 Posted 01/18/2009  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add North of 49 to your friends list
I 'm glad to see that there are some out there who would break open a mint set to in order to add to a collection. This is a question that I've struggled with for some time now. I didn't want to decrease the value of the coins in the set by breaking them open but at the same time I don't collect "coin sets". I would prefer to add to my dollar, quarter, and nickel etc. collection.
By the way can anyone tell me is there a difference in the value of a lower denomination coin taken from a proof set and one taken from a specimen set. To the naked eye there does seem to be a difference in the quality. I understand that a proof set is stuck twice does this apply to the specimen as well?
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