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Wade, I have similar feelings about grading and slabs and do like to spend my money on raw coins as well which is why I was asking for opinions. take a look at the coin in the link below and let me know what you think. Thanks! http://goccf.com/t/375553 |
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Valued Member
United States
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Some of the replies on my original post have made me hesitant, and I know it's hard to know for sure from pictures, but I have put this coin under the microscope and don't see signs of cleaning but I'm just not 100%. I would only be in the coin for about $100 after grading so if it does come back cleaned or polished I could still probably make a CPL bucks with it being so pretty lol.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's a beautiful coin for sure. But it's not a great date/mm as far as $ goes (actually one of the lowest). Now if you hit the TPG lottery, and got a 67 or 68, that would be another story. Personally, I think I might take the gamble.  |
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United States
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If you're going to sub it, I'd try NGC first. then PCGS. Then ANACS.
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Valued Member
United States
128 Posts |
Wideglide, thanks for the input inreally do appreciate it. Yeah I know it's not the best date/mm but maybe it'd hit high on a good day from a grader. I'm just going to have do send it off lol. Thanks again!
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United States
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suipakpaikungfu thanks for the input as well. That's exactly what I was thinking also. NGC first and hopefully that'll be all it takes. I like the way they grade but we'll see. Thanks again.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Imo, NGC is the best technical grader. If you can get a DMPL from them, IT IS!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I"m sticking to my first assessment of the coin being polished, so not worth sending in to any TPG ( I'll be waiting to say I told you so  ). BUT, if you're going to do it, It's a tossup on who to send it to. As Joe Schmo, and not a big name guy, I'd say NGC will be a bit more conservative/technical, just my opinion. |
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United States
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Ty2020b I do hope you are wrong, and for my financial benefit (no offense meant) I hope I can come back on here and say I told you so as in it's not polished. I do see points where it looks like some of the edges of the devices are shinier. After your comment on my original post about DMPL I looked into the "orange peel" look and you'd be surprised by some NGC members takes on the subject. A good number of highly graded proof gold and silver coins have the "orange peel" look in the fields. It is from the metal flowing or the annealing process of the planchet, but most articles or posts I read said the orange peel look is a good thing on proofs and special strikes. The devices have almost all the detail of a perfect strike so I'm going to send it off. We'll see lol. Thanks again!
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Canada
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The surfaces appear to have been manipulated, just as Ty2020 pointed out. The devices such as the stars and the date should have, and once did have, the same amount of frost as the portrait.
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United States
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No offense taken, and none given! Just putting in my opinion. As stated, the big indicator is the polishing carried into the devices. There is a loss of detail in the dentils, stars, lettering, they appear rounded from the polishing ( see attached comparison). Another concern is the reverse fields. There appear to be contact marks that have been polished over. Any contact marks, even on a mirror like finish will reflect/refract light differently. This is not the case in the circles areas in the pics I posted of your coin. More signs of being polished. Again, just my opinions! Eager to see the results!    |
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Valued Member
United States
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Thank you again I really appreciate all the replies and comments, it's a lot of fun learning the new terms and definitions as well as key points to look for in the future. Thanks everyone.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Keep us posted, best of luck!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks like what back in the 1970's was called a "California Prooflike". Saw a lot of them back then but very seldom today. They were taking silver dollars, polishing them to a mirror finish, and then artificially frosting the devises. Looked really impressive at first glance and fooled a lot of novices (And I will admit I have a beautiful 1881 S myself that fooled me back then. 10 inch mirrors.) Last one I saw I would have loved to have bought, but the dealer knew what it was and wouldn't sell it. Had it for display purposes only. It was a 1925 Peace dollar, deep deep mirrors and white frosted devices. A Peace dollare that looked like a DMPL Cameo Morgan. I predicte your coin will come back either as Details or bodybagged with a description of "Altered Surfaces". |
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I already pointed that out as the first person to say so on the other thread. I think it will get bagged. But the question was for TPG's... |
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