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Does Tarnish Adversely Affect The Grade Of A Silver Coin

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 Posted 01/31/2021  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list
Thanks. I guess I mean toning.
I am talking about encapsulated coins from the mint, that have not been opened, but I am curious if that 'toning' (usually on the edge/rim) would have an adverse effect on the grade......
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 Posted 01/31/2021  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Tarnish (toning) does not affect the grade, unless it develops into corrosion.
It can, and often does, affect the eye appeal and thus the value.
The resultant value is subjective in the mind of the buyer, not the seller.
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 Posted 01/31/2021  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list
I think we need to "see" what you consider to be toning. Your opinion of toning and our opinion of toning could be many different things.

Toning is a touchy subject around these parts.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I think we need to "see" what you consider to be toning. Your opinion of toning and our opinion of toning could be many different things. Toning is a touchy subject around these parts.
I have to agree. Toning is very subjective.

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 Posted 02/01/2021  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list
So I wouldn't send these coins in to get graded, but I am trying to learn and would like to know are these tarnish, oxidation, corrosion or toning.

I would assume oxidation, but what do the grading labs think of oxidation, toning or tarnish?

Do they give an unfavorable grade because of it?

Thamks.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
IMO, that toning is unattractive, but it won't affect the grade of the coin. It could adversely the value of the coin.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list
Regarding the top:

Sad to see but very common on these things unfortunately. Don't exactly know how or why it happened. Probably the environment on where it was stored over the years.....hot, cold, humid, dry, etc...


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oxidation, toning or tarnish?


I guess you could call it what you want. At this point it doesn't really matter, the coin is toast. That stuff isn't coming off the surface of that coin.

Not sure about the second coin.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list
Yeah, like I said I'm not submitting those to be graded but, I'll be selling those for who knows, lol..., but thanks for the information.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Coin pictured I like, but I really prefer blast white or or unfogged mirror, whatever the case may be.
Can this coin be taken out of the capsule without damage to capsule or coin, so it can be given an acetone bath?
Remember:- Don't let acetone get anywhere near the acrylic capsule, or it will be ruined!
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 Posted 02/01/2021  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list

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so it can be given an acetone bath?


Acetone will not help that first coin. The oxidation, toning or tarnish is baked into that proof surface.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
You could try dipping it
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Never dip a cameo proof it ruins the frosting
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 Posted 02/03/2021  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list
I found this morgan going through my coins......
Would this tarnish be one of those that is attractive or no?
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 Posted 02/03/2021  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list

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Would this tarnish be one of those that is attractive or no?


If you like it, yes.
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