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 Posted 01/21/2009  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
The Half Cents are not nearly as bad, though an XF draped bust can run you a few hundred.
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 Posted 01/21/2009  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artworks12 to your friends list
Check http://www.pcgs.com/prices/

You will find many coins over $250 in XF.

There are a good number of type coins that are
into thousand and 10's of thousands in XF.

The toughest is the draped bust small eagle 1/2 dollar 1796-1797
which comes up for sale a few times a year in all grades. PCGS lists AG 3 at $23K and XF 40 at $85K.

Barbers in XF are probably rarer than mint state. Grab a nice looking circulated Barber coin if you find it.
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 Posted 01/21/2009  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Check http://www.pcgs.com/prices/

You will find many coins over $250 in XF.


Although the actual prices listed there bear no relationship to real-world sales data, guides like artworks12 mentions are pretty good indicators of relative rarity. PCGS did their homework with regard to scarcity and has years of grading data to back it up. That's a point we tend to overlook with the "price guide" that we love to hate.
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 Posted 01/21/2009  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Interesting you mention this because I was reading a Coin World (Jan. 26th issue pg. 36) advertisement for Type Coins last night. You pick the grades you want for each type and the price is noted. Here's the prices listed for Large cents in XF:
Draped Bust: $660
Classic Head: $800
Coronet Head: $92
Braided Hair: $53
These prices are for common dates of THEIR choice and seem pretty reasonable for XF, problem free coins.

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 Posted 01/21/2009  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Well, I have cut out a lot of the super high ones by including draped bust only for the cent and Half Cent. Also, am only including major differences. For example I need a Shield nickel. Rays, no rays, doesn't matter. I am hoping to put this together for $6k.
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 Posted 01/21/2009  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ceaton to your friends list
Wow, a 6k budget, now that sounds like fun! Good luck :D
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 Posted 01/22/2009  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
A solution to the draped bust problem:

Find one that is slightly corroded in a few spots but slabbed, often grading companies will just bodybag these and place them in problem holders just because of a few tiny spots of corrosion.

And people, not knowing better, won't pay much more for them than a seriously corroded coin.

At least, I think it would be a good idea.
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 Posted 01/22/2009  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Yeah, that's 6k over 6 years though. Considering price increases, it might end up higher. So far, I only have 1 of 56 coins.
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 Posted 01/22/2009  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Which coin do you have?

And how much money do you have on hand?

Common dates shouldn't increase THAT much, I'd personally get the draped bust silver first, because those are likely to increase a lot more than everything else.
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 Posted 01/22/2009  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Currently, I have the Liberty nickel in the correct grade. When I get paid tomorrow, I will then have $250 on hand. Mostly, I will be able to acquire when I get my tax refunds each year.
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 Posted 01/22/2009  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Another thing you could do is to start with lower grades for the tougher ones, then gradually replace them...

Would be more fun!
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 Posted 01/22/2009  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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These prices are for common dates of THEIR choice and seem pretty reasonable for XF, problem free coins.

The question is, at those prices will the be problem free coins? The Draped, Coronet, and Braided probably will be, I'll about guarantee the Classic WON'T be. Or if it is problem free it will be more like a low end VF.
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I'll about guarantee the Classic WON'T be. Or if it is problem free it will be more like a low end VF.


It's from a reputable dealer will full return privileges. When a Coin World ad states XF and problem free, I'd except nothing less.

For $800 an 1812 or 1814 can be purchased in XF. I'm sure it would one of these dates.
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 Posted 01/24/2009  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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For $800 an 1812 or 1814 can be purchased in XF. I'm sure it would one of these dates

Doubtful, true problem free XF even of those dates will usually bring $1400 to $1600 at auction. Why would the dealer sell it for half market? Yes you can get one of those dates with XF sharpness for $800, but it will be dark and at least somewhat porous, and possibly showing some light oorrosion.
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 Posted 01/26/2009  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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Another thing you could do is to start with lower grades for the tougher ones, then gradually replace them...

Would be more fun!


Exactly what I like to do. Not a real big person on type sets or collections but way, way back I purchsed a plastic sheet for the 20th Century Type Set. Filled it with just about anything. Over the years I have slowly improved the grades of each coin. No big hurry though since I started it about 20 or more years ago.
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