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Im just here for the popcorn  itll be interesting to see what others think.Quite a few of these type coins popping up. |
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Spain
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The real Potosi of this dates are crude coins. Fake but nice to have coin with the toning.  |
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 United States
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Welcome to the Forum,
Interesting reproduction piece, has some small value as a fake. One of our members Swamperbob is the expert on these type of coins. I'm sure he will be along and have more info for you.
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Israel
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A very nice Chinese work.
8 Reals & Thalers are the favorites in China.
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Australia
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Yep, sorry, it's fake. This is what a Potosi 8 reales of 1617 normally look like; much cruder affairs. There were a few very carefully made specimen coins which look as nice and round as yours, but these were made as presentation pieces for the king, and sent back to Europe - so you wouldn't find them in Bolivia today. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Switzerland
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yes, is what I thought, was so nice to be real ;) but is a nice piece as a fake one :) thanks to everyone, hope more people have more comments, it is something very interesting! I have two more coins: macuquinas, I suppose :=) any comments? (see photos attached) Thanks again! Image:  MACUQUINA1.jpg36.71 KB Image: MACUQUINA2.jpg52.57 KB |
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SAP, after viewing several of these posts, I dug out a "COB" I have had for at least 50 years. it is from Potosi, 8 Reales, and dated 1632, I don't think it is genuine. I was going to post a p[icture of it, but it is much to big an image, (thru the scope to give a full face view.. I checked the link you provided, and only find the 8, and 4 Reales, all about 1617 vintage. Is there a 1632 to your knowledge? I will try to get a shot of this one, tomorrow, and edit this post. thank you for any info, Here are the pictures:   Dick Edited by livingdinasaur
02/08/2009 02:17 am
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Australia
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No, the Krause catalogue doesn't list any 8 reales dated 1632. However, from the shape of the squiggle before the "3" in the date, I'd say this coin is actually dated 1732. Unfortunately, this doesn't help you much, because the 1700's Krause doesn't list any 8 reales from 1732, either. I'm not sure what the absence of the date from the listing means.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Spain
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In my catalog there is KM# 31a 1732YA
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United States
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Thank you both, for the info, however I am going to post one more photo, of the top picture. There is something there that gives me the idea it is a fake. I'll edit, and post it later, (breakdfast is served)! Later: Check the lower area of the picture. There appears to be another date there. Is this usual? That is what makes me doubt the authenticity. Thanks for looking.  Dick Edited by livingdinasaur
02/08/2009 12:03 pm
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United States
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Macuquinas? Que son esto? Que no son "cabo de barra?
BTW, what is a "macuquina? I thiught it was "just another odd-shaped cob".
Thanks,
dick
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Pillar of the Community
Spain
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Macuquinas are cob coins in spanish. The real design has a date on the obverse and the reverse, only seldom seen because design is not always complete in most coins.
Regarding authenticy, I'm not an expert especially in Photos. You have to touch it and feel it to more or less know the authenticy. There are experts here in fake coins maybe they can help in that. Normally, a bad copy coin can be spotted but this one I can't tell, but like I always say a nice coin to keep even it is fake.
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Pillar of the Community
Poland
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There was a link in one thread to an article that said that these coins can have 2 or even 3 dates.. the dates should be the same (and they both look like 732)..
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United States
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manilagalleontrade, I was surprised to hear thea there were dates on OBV, as well as REV. This one has two, for sure, as can be seen from the photos. Can you give me a "ball-park" answer as to how much an 8 Real Cob should weigh? It is , or looks like silver, and weighs about the same as a four-bit piece, (50 cents). It is slightly larger than a quarter, and is possibly about 1/4", maybe 3/116" thick. Llike I said, I have had it for more than 50 years, and have neve tried to find out if it is legit, or how much it might be worth. I have no intention to sell. I have never sold a coin, yet. I have given many, as girts, to help "fill holes". My "Oro de Placer', same thing. It was fun finding, and recovering it, but none has ever been sold. In case one of you decides to try some "dry-washing", just remember this: It is dusty, HOT as hades, and very hard work! One day when I decide to die, I hope my collections will be worth at least a "Buck, three-eighty, and a quarter"! thanks guys for your replies, and help!
Dick
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02/08/2009 7:09 pm
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Spain
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27.0730 g. but these coins are notoriously shaved for its silver so most probably you won't get that orignal weight.
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