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Thanks for the advice nickelsguy, I'll make sure to keep it intact.
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I'm not an expert of errors but, to me, it looks like a beep scratch/gouge after the coin was struck. The metal at the end of it was part of the coin that was scraped off as the foreign object scraped over the coin .... or a piece of equipment in the press or ejection mechanism gouged it and piled up the removed metal in back of her head where it ended. The scrape/gouge, to me, looks way too sharp and concise to be caused by a strike-thru.
Edited by okiecoiner
04/09/2022 1:06 pm
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It has the appearance of a stuck through to me. I'm wondering what I'm seeing under the H and II in the ledgand and in from of the Queen's face where the area in question starts and ends. I recently found an American cent that has a similar struck through mut it's mostly in the fields.  |
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Bill and others.....look between the H and II......see the wire bent up and to the left.......I will now bow to the east (towards Ottawa) for the "OH ROTUND ONE" to confirm retained strike thru.....I want to go golfing....
Edited by nickelsguy
04/09/2022 4:09 pm
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Most definitely legit. Struck through a bronze shaving, which happens with metal sheared by a stiff collar die, partially retained. Quote:
IMO it is mark of a coin who hit this coin. This can happened after strike when the coins fall in the bin. No. And no. You can see some of the bronze shaving retained at each end of the strike-through feature. Secondly, this is a PL strike, and they did not get dumped into any bins. You see this error type through PL sets of the mid 1960s through to the mid 1970s, especially on the 1c, 50c, and nickel dollars. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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The pieces under II are obviously from the gouge.
If those remnants are loose and there's an impression under them on the field caused by force of the die, the gouge happened before the strike.
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If the remnants are imbedded, the gouge happened before the strike.
If the remnants are loose on top of the coin and there is no impression of them on the field under them, the gouge happened after the strike.
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TerryT that makes sense to me.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Terry T doesn't make sense to me, definitely a strike through , nice clean edges
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Well oldmike, here's the deal.
I gave the reasoning needed to make a decision, that's all.
There are only 2 possibilities.
Before - If this = this, or
After - If that = that
So you've decided- the remnant is either imbedded or left an impression = this...makes sense to me, so how did I not make sense to you ?
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Maybe I am confused (and old) but how does a strike through anything happen before the strike , in this case the shaving would be on the planchet before the strike , and the gouge would be created during the strike ,not before
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04/11/2022 5:55 pm
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To me still, it is post mint. If there were little slivers or danglers at the end of the gouge, the strike would have plastered them into the field. I still say post mint.
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No Bill, it is not. It is a strike-through error. Struck through a bronze filament, which is partially retained (these tend not to bond).
I can bring a few examples with me at the next coin show we are all together.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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You're right oldmike, I made no sense. I guess I got sidetracked with okie's comment about a scratch causing the extra metal and only looked at that. I've asked that my two dumb posts be deleted. Of course a piece of metal from swomewhere else caused the mark.
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04/12/2022 06:42 am
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OK, Roger. My mind seems to only bend the way that I've seen stuff like that in machine shops.
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So the two pieces that were confusing me were a retained part of the struck through then? I have no experience with metal work, I would have though copper wire would have essentially fused with the coin as well but the rest makes sense and it most definitely has the appearance of a stuck through even with the photos provided.
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