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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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It's an 'either or issue' being that it's a Class 10 (1302-10)
The problem with these is there's alot of contradictory information out there which only adds to the confusion.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
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So if one said one or the other, they would not be wrong.
What did you think of the last one?
I really do appreciate your help.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Yes you could say either.
Last one is definately Edward I, I can't tell you any more than that though because there's not much detail on that one.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Thanks for that.
Can I ask what denominations did they have back then?
What denomination do you think this one is, I would have said straight away penney but it is marginally smaller?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Pennies, halfpennies and farthings. Halfpennies are somewhat smaller than pennies and half the weight, farthings are tiny things being but a quarter of the weight of a penny.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Is there any marks that would help define it?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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I presume you mean defining Coin 5 further?
You'd need a reference guide with pictures of each class, sit down with the coin in hand and study them until one looked similar. Near impossible to do based on a photo, to do that with a photo it'd have to be a really, really good one.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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No Sorry didn't mean define the monarch. More so the denomination.
I am just a bit curious as the size is a bit smaller a lighter?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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It could be a halfpenny but I don't have my catalogue on hand to measure the diameter that halfpennies should be. Put it this way it's small.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I always thought half pennies were cut pennies. Or did they only do this during a special period?
Edited by KLD
03/29/2006 05:26 am
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Not neccesirally! Half pennies can be whole coins, Spannish coins were cut whenh their denominations were half.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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From the 900s up until 1279 half pennies were generally cut coins, as were farthings. Although some extremely rare halfpennies/farthings are know to exist of a few issues notably of Henry II and III. But it appears they weren't issued in any great number, or if they were then very few have survived.
In 1279 with the recoinage round halfpennies and farthings were introduced (or reintroduced since they had existed sporadically prior to the mid-900s), and from then onwards there were three coins of the realm. 1d, 1/2d & 1/4d. In the 1330s they were joined by groats (4d) and halfgroats (2d), along with gold coins valued at 80d, 40d & 20d respectively.
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Forum Kid
Kuwait
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Well, I was partially right...
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Thankyou Aetheling, that cleared it up for me.
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Valued Member
United States
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Well Sir Simon must have the same Coins of England by Spink that I have. However, I notice one distinctive difference I think worth noting and that is that No groats were issued by Edward thre 11 during his reign of 1307=1327 There are several varieties of your Groat- It also should weigh 89 grains.(Standard weight)of his groats. The varieties of your coin have a broad face, a long face, a slimj face or long narrow face. While may not be import to you- It is a definite Identifying factor so far as variety goes. So you talk about variety-- I wonder about those collectors back in his time. They must have had a field day, collecting all these faces. Knight XXVIII
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Posted 03/27/2006 05:32 am
