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Valued Member
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Im a noob to numismatics. What does DMPL mean?
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Im a noob to numismatics. What does DMPL mean? Deep Mirror Prooflike. A measure of the reflectivity of the surface of a coin. As SeatedNut mentions, the DMPL designation is for a coin reflective enough that 12pt type can be clearly read in it from a distance of 6" minimum (in my experience, PCGS at least holds to an even higher standard). |
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Thanks for the help superdave
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you Dave that was very informattive  |
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Pillar of the Community
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At times I feel invisible here. The term "thread-killer" comes to mind. If you think I am hallucinating, just reread this post. My frustration is now complete. It's been a very entertaining ride CCF.
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Pillar of the Community
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Seated--I can totally empathize, I have spent less time on the site researching and posting answers that people aren't going to read anyway and more time learning new songs on my guitar. I've got 'Spirit in the Sky' pretty passable right now.
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Pillar of the Community
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Very nice Morgans  |
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At times I feel invisible here. The term "thread-killer" comes to mind. If you think I am hallucinating, just reread this post. My frustration is now complete. It's been a very entertaining ride CCF. Quote:
I have spent less time on the site researching and posting answers that people aren't going to read anyway and more time learning new songs on my guitar. I'm not sure why you guys are all of a sudden copping an attitude. If your participation here is tied to the praise you receive in return for doing it, perhaps you're in the wrong line of work. The value of your contribution is not indicated by the 11 times people have posted in this thread, but by the 80 people who have read it. I have a thread going below this one - it'd be nice if even one of the 30+ people who have read it would post a comment, but I'm not going to lose my religion if nobody does. I'd like it better if I got more feedback on the pictures for which I invested $1000+ into camera equipment and hundreds of hours of learning, but sometimes you just don't hit the wave and that's all there is to it. But remember, the true value of what you do here goes to those who never mention having seen it, and they greatly outnumber the people who do mention it. If you're burned out, take a vacation. You're always welcome here; both of you have well and truly earned a place in the community. But don't come in and defecate on somebody else's thread because you're having a bad moment. You're not helping them learn, you're not helping me keep control of the environment, and you're not helping yourselves stay interested in the hobby either. |
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Pillar of the Community
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 Thank You all for your input it is much appreciated |
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Pillar of the Community
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You Too Seatednut  |
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Seatednut and halfabust, I have to say that I at least do appreciate your contributions here and I have learned a great deal on this forum. I read about twenty or more threads for every one I post a comment on. I usually only post if I have something useful to contribute or a question to ask, as I don't feel it's that useful to continually post "Great" or "Wonderful" or "Congrats". Doesn't mean I'm not reading, learning and appreciating the varied threads. Well, ok, I'm not really reading the Canadian and Australian threads very often. Nothing personal you guys, just don't collect those. At least not yet.
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Very informative thread , so how much does being DMPL add to the value of a coin ? and does that designation apply to all denominations ?
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I don't want this getting dragged off-topic, because there's a pretty important issue to be addressed. I hope you don't take my words wrong, chris12018, because I know you're genuinely making an effort to learn here. The PL/DMPL designation is a very common misinterpretation on the part of a newer collector who's never actually seen a true DMPL coin. There is absolutely no mistaking a true DMPL - they will reflect light into your eyes painfully, and you'll be astonished at just how dazzling a business-strike coin can be. A true DMPL coin is indistinguishable from a Proof's reflectivity, and it would need to be a good proof at that. They are very darn difficult to represent in photographs, because an average camera cannot capture the level of detail that a DMPL coin delivers in its' reflection. Here's a case in point - this coin was only worth a PL designation from NGC:  The Coke can reflected was a foot from the coin. The examples presented here by chris12018 are some very nice coins indeed. I could easily imagine some of them receiving a PL designation, but there is no way I could ever pronounce one DMPL based on these shots. The first 1878-S, which is probably the one with the best reflectivity, shows too little definition in the reflection of light right in front of the jaw - a DMPL coin would have sharp edges to what's reflected, rather than the diffuse edges showing in the pic. But, again, I won't come down on either side based on photographs. You want to see a DMPL coin in action? Here's one we call a "headlight:" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6l7C8rK8hg |
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Very informative thread , so how much does being DMPL add to the value of a coin ? and does that designation apply to all denominations ? Generally speaking, DMPL designations are not for copper, except Proofs - it's very difficult to achieve such a finish on a copper coin. The PL and DMPL designations pretty much originated with Morgan dollars in the 60's - prior to that, they were just premium examples of a given coin. Now, the designation can and has been applied to many silver issues, and they've become premium coins. Value differences, like most coinage, vary according to rarity. Some Morgans are easily found with reflective surfaces - well, easily considering the fact that only about 2% of Mint State Morgans are worthy of even PL designation, and only a small percentage of them DMPL - and others are much more difficult. Many Carson City Morgans, generally the most valuable, are also the easiest to find with reflective surfaces. On the other hand, certain San Francisco Morgans, generally considered on average the best-struck examples, are unknown in DMPL. So, additional value can range from, say, 30% above the non-PL value, to huge multiples of it. |
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Very tough to tell with a photo.
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