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2000 Lincoln Penny "Double Eye"?

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 Posted 06/29/2023  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EML Coin Collector to your friends list
Dearborn Will do so tomorrow.

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 Posted 06/29/2023  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Looks normal to me.
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 Posted 06/30/2023  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
What you see on the NGC forum and your coin it is a big difference. Apples and Tomatoes are different also.
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 Posted 06/30/2023  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
The light reflection on the anomaly looks as if these lines are incuse. If it were die doubling the feature would be in relief like the normal eye and not incuse. I can see other bag or circulation marks of relatively the same depth and length on Lincoln's beard, cheek, upper lip and nose.

I compared the lines using Photoshop overlays to the normal eye and they are all slightly different in length and do not seem to have the same curves, shape or spacing as the normal eye. I used the eyelid as an anchor point for the animation frame.

I think these marks are Post Mint Damage that coincidently looks like the engraving of Lincoln's eye.

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 Posted 06/30/2023  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EML Coin Collector to your friends list
Yokozuna

So you show that the image from the link I provided is most likely a fake/Photoshopped. That makes sense how you showed it.

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Only mentioned the link since it showed something similar in terms of a "double eye".
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 Posted 06/30/2023  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EML Coin Collector to your friends list
Here are more closeup images of the penny I have:


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 Posted 06/30/2023  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Well Yoko did just what I was going to do, but not as good as him. As I stated, the spacing and angles are not correct - and you can see that in Yoko's presentation.
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Dearborn

Yoko's presentation is based on the image in the link I provided which is someone else's coin.

My coin is very different in eye location, etc. annd posted in the last three images enlarged.
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ah ok, didn't know that - let me go and try what I was planning (in the morning)
So, can you post up a good image of your coin - a close up?
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 Posted 06/30/2023  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EML Coin Collector to your friends list
Dearborn:

http://goccf.com/t/448904#3871437 has the latest images. Pretty challenging to balance a phone and magnifying glass to get those last two images. The first one is a microscopic view.
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I think you would get a much better photo result by sticking a memory card in your microscope.
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Dearborn

Yoko's presentation is based on the image in the link I provided which is someone else's coin.

My coin is very different in eye location, etc. annd posted in the last three images enlarged.

No, this is a Photoshop Overlay of the coin image you supplied in the original post. I copied your image into Photoshop and then created a layer from the damaged area. The damage has a different shape than Lincoln's eye. I then animated the overlay showing the differences.

The original image shows several contact marks in addition to the false 'eye' that match the size and shape of each other. I think your coin is showing Post Strike Damage, not doubling.

Dearborn is correct that I was showing why this doesn't match. I didn't use anything from the link as it's nothing like your coin.

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 Posted 07/01/2023  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EML Coin Collector to your friends list
Yokozuna

If you look closely your overlay "eye" is not the same as the eye in the NW since you over extended it. If you would line up the eye better it would be a perfect fit since the NW eye is actually partial not whole, but still a portion of it. This is why I thought you were using the other image.

The microscope scan really would reflect that since I got it to show using Photoshop myself. Will try to get a better scope scan once I get a memory card to give a much better example since my picture is not detailed enough.
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ELMCoinCollector said...

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If you look closely your overlay "eye" is not the same as the eye in the NW since you over extended it.

It's an exact copy of the area that you think is an eye. I didn't extend any part of the overlay. It just doesn't match.

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Yokozuna

Yes you did an exact copy, but you over extended it too far to the right. I will show you in a few days what I mean.
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