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1979 Washington Quarter Is This A Possible Retained Die Cud?

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 Posted 08/01/2023  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
A pic of the edge at the Y area would be very helpful.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'd say it's a minor Pre-Cud. Nice find!
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 Posted 08/01/2023  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list
Thank you DEAR. I will look close on those. By your short explanation give me an idea to develop.

Thanks to you DEAR and GIGI to open the discussion. See you folks for my next post.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
This sure appears to be a precud at a minimum.

The rim looks like it might qualify as a rim Cud judging by the two endpoints with raised metal in between.

I'm not sure if there is enough vertical displacement to the field above the left side of the "Y" to be considered a Cud, but it's close.
Using Dearborns interpretation of some displacement to qualify as a precud, I would say this is a precud.
(I'm not sure if cuds-on-coins makes that distinction though.)
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 Posted 08/01/2023  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
@Pete: The C-o-C link I posted above does make that distinction. Here is a direct quote from their site:

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Pre Cuds
A "Pre Cud" is a precursor to most collectible of all die break errors called a Cud.
The Pre Cud starts out as a Rim to Rim Die Crack.
When the die break starts to show lateral spread and horizontal offset it now becomes a Retained Cud.
If the break separates from the die the result is a fully-fledged Cud.
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 Posted 08/01/2023  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
Thank you @Dearborn I check the link and the photos you has post I really appreciate it.

Then pre Cud is a crack that it appears that is rim to rim but its not involved the rim, and a retained is a crach that comes from the rim.. Am I correct?


Thank you everyone for your kindness and reply to my post!!
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 Posted 08/01/2023  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
@Hondo I dont know if this is what you want but here is another pic
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 Posted 08/01/2023  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
Thank you and very welcome @Silviosi

@Dearborn and @Petespockets55 thank you for the explanation on this.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
@Dearborn you are right, no matter how long you are doing anything you always learn something new everyday.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  12:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Khromtau to your friends list
I think @Hondo is looking for a picture of the edge, like this:
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 Posted 08/02/2023  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Exactly, Khromtau. The edge, AKA the third side.
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 Posted 08/02/2023  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gigi2110 to your friends list
Ohhh thank you for let me know @Khromtau!

Yes @Hondo I will take and post the picture tomorrow.
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