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Bedrock of the Community
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Could be grease filled, could also be a tapered planchet. Several varieties in the mid 1850's are also known for very weak dates.
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Thank you for the info Conder101! I appreciate it.
Errers and Varietys.
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I think someone just effaced the numbers...
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Bedrock of the Community
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Oldgrouchyguy, could be. I don't think we'll ever truly know what happened to it.
Errers and Varietys.
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Errors and Varieties: yeah, you'd have to clean it down to the metal to see if it's interrupted there... it seems to be the an answer, as there are sharp tool marks on the obverse as well. A "skill" thing...
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It seems very plausible. I just left it alone and wrote "18XX" for the date. The area below the date seems suspicious.
Errers and Varietys.
Edited by Errers and Varietys 10/29/2023 10:52 pm
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There are some out there who could Varietize it (and thus date it): how many have the 1 that far left of the bust tip, with a leaning 8, and go from there. Neat whimsey piece
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Quote: There are some out there who could Varietize it (and thus date it): how many have the 1 that far left of the bust tip, with a leaning 8, and go from there. Neat whimsey piece Very good info, thanks! 
Errers and Varietys.
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Attributing Newcombs is hard enough on worn coins, a dateless coin would be a crazy challenge. It would take me at least a few hours if there were no dramatic cracks or die defects. May be impossible to narrow it down to a single die marriage. Struck Through Grease makes sense, I would label it as such if there are no tooling marks or damage in the area.
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There are not too many that have the 1 of the date that far left, with a tilted 8. Point of the curl over the 8. Spacing, too. Then, by lining up denticles to the date, etc. of candidates could the variety be discerned
Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 10/30/2023 11:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Is there a website or link to Newcombs varieties? I wouldn't mind learning more about them.
Errers and Varietys.
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Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 10/30/2023 11:17 pm
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Thank you for the links Oldgrouchyguy!
Errers and Varietys.
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E&V: I've had a lot of fun with Late Dates through the decades (a lot more fun before Bob G. published his first ed.!). It's almost like The Last Frontier of old Copper collecting. You can still find some really good coins in holders that are nicer than their prices indicate
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jacrispies: one of the reasons that I think the last two date digits were erased is the neat little bit of inner-rim excising done over star 6 at 11:30 on the obverse
Edited by Oldgrouchyguy 10/30/2023 11:43 pm
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