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18xx Braided Hair Large Cent Struck Through Grease?

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 Posted 09/12/2023  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Could be grease filled, could also be a tapered planchet. Several varieties in the mid 1850's are also known for very weak dates.
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 Posted 10/28/2023  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Thank you for the info Conder101! I appreciate it.
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 Posted 10/29/2023  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
I think someone just effaced the numbers...
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 Posted 10/29/2023  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Oldgrouchyguy, could be. I don't think we'll ever truly know what happened to it.
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 Posted 10/29/2023  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
Errors and Varieties: yeah, you'd have to clean it down to the metal to see if it's interrupted there... it seems to be the an answer, as there are sharp tool marks on the obverse as well. A "skill" thing...
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 Posted 10/29/2023  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
It seems very plausible. I just left it alone and wrote "18XX" for the date. The area below the date seems suspicious.
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There are some out there who could Varietize it (and thus date it): how many have the 1 that far left of the bust tip, with a leaning 8, and go from there. Neat whimsey piece
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 Posted 10/29/2023  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list

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There are some out there who could Varietize it (and thus date it): how many have the 1 that far left of the bust tip, with a leaning 8, and go from there. Neat whimsey piece


Very good info, thanks!
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 Posted 10/30/2023  03:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Attributing Newcombs is hard enough on worn coins, a dateless coin would be a crazy challenge. It would take me at least a few hours if there were no dramatic cracks or die defects. May be impossible to narrow it down to a single die marriage.

Struck Through Grease makes sense, I would label it as such if there are no tooling marks or damage in the area.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
There are not too many that have the 1 of the date that far left, with a tilted 8. Point of the curl over the 8. Spacing, too. Then, by lining up denticles to the date, etc. of candidates could the variety be discerned
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Is there a website or link to Newcombs varieties? I wouldn't mind learning more about them.
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 Posted 10/30/2023  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
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Thank you for the links Oldgrouchyguy!
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 Posted 10/30/2023  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
E&V: I've had a lot of fun with Late Dates through the decades (a lot more fun before Bob G. published his first ed.!). It's almost like The Last Frontier of old Copper collecting. You can still find some really good coins in holders that are nicer than their prices indicate
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 Posted 10/30/2023  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
jacrispies: one of the reasons that I think the last two date digits were erased is the neat little bit of inner-rim excising done over star 6 at 11:30 on the obverse
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10/30/2023 11:43 pm
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