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Dealer Vs US Mint Pricing: Whats Going On?`

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 Posted 09/10/2023  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You mean Littleton, the Collector's Friend?
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 Posted 09/10/2023  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list
This is interesting. About a year ago I purchased a 1921 Peace graded at AU58 for $490 from a reputable dealer.
I felt like I over paid. Looks like a good deal for me.
It was graded by PCGS.
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 Posted 09/10/2023  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
Do coin dealers get a discount from the US Mint for Mint products, or do they have to pay full retail price like everyone else?

If a dealership has to pay full or near-full price for mint products they're buying from the Mint, they're going to need to make profit out of them somehow - because on-selling them for the Mint's RRP would mean little or no profit for them. They're a business, not a charity.

As for Litteleton, they're big enough and have been in the business long enough to be able to run the statistics. They know from past experience how many sets they should buy in, how quickly they can onsell, the ticket price they can get away with just comes out of the sales algorithm.
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 Posted 09/10/2023  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Littleton is a magazine-insert retail advertiser that targets uninformed new collectors. Anything they offer can be had for much less elsewhere. Don't be fooled by their come-on ads.
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 Posted 09/10/2023  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike31093 to your friends list

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If Littleton is in your mind that says a lot about your progression in our hobby.


Thank you for grading me. I can only go up from here.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list
Joking aside, try other online dealers like SD Bullion, Monument Metals, Hero Bullion, Bullion Exchanges, Liberty Coin, APMEX, etc. The big dealers usually have sales and also an ebay store. Sometimes their prices on ebay are cheaper than their own web site and vise versa. There are both good and bad sellers on ebay, good and fake coins, so just research before buying.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike31093 to your friends list

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so just research before buying


That's exactly what I was doing, using Google to research coin pricing. All those groups Livingwater mentioned, including Littleton, show up in results. So I look at ALL the data. My post was intended to help me understand this hobby's landscape. IMHO I'm progressing quite well, thank you.

That said, some are reading more into my initial post than intended. So let me clarify.

A portion of my collection came from Littleton. I can only guess that my Father-in law saw a circular or magazine ad and started buying from Littleton. I, too, see some of those 'hook' ads. "Get 5 great coins for just $14.95, limit 1 per family." Wow, that's gotta be a good deal. Hogwash. Not interested.

I have not made any purchase from Littleton nor do I intend to. I have bought from a LCD and visit antique shops to peruse their coin collections. I would also mention that the "coin collectors friend's" ads show up in popup ads on this very site.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list
My dad bought some coins from Littleton too years ago. Sorry, don't intend to offend, just trying to help others avoid paying too much. Glad you are doing price comparisons. Thanks for sharing that.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mike31093 to your friends list
LivingWater: Nothing offensive in your post.

I had no idea my Father-in-law had a coin collection until he passed and it was given to me. But he was a sucker for a good ad. He'd get pounds of mail from different organizations asking for donations. I'm guessing he gave, hence all the mail.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list
Littleton Coins are true art but MBarr Coins they are a true masterpiece. Think about how difficult it is to consistently aquire and sell only cleaned whizzed polished bent scratched dinged gouged corroded and over-photo shoped coins do it for years successfully and make money. MBarr is the giant of the industry.
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 Posted 09/11/2023  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list
Well we all have different opinions and experiences with dealers. I've bought from MBarr on ebay, never had one photo that misrepresented a coin when the photo is the actual coin bought. But lots of sellers use stock photos which in that case you don't know what a coin will look like. MBarr also offers 30 day returns. There are others on ebay that doctor photo shop pics.
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I've bought from MBarr on ebay, never had one photo that misrepresented a coin when the photo is the actual coin bought.
Same.
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 Posted 09/13/2023  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Are we saying M Barr Coins sells junk or as advertised coins?
My purchases have been as advertised. If anything, the purchases have looked better in hand.
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 Posted 10/22/2023  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mojojojo to your friends list
Unfortunately there are companies that are in it to make the most profit possible, you need to do your homework before purchasing. "Let the Buyer Beware"
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