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Bedrock of the Community
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I like that all the stars are fully split indicating a very well struck coin. The obverse die seems to have broken down at the dentilation along K1-K3. I also have a difficult time finding any rub on this coin.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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you might be right NS however better lighting would help determine that. the surfaces are just a little too dark and a tad out of focus
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Bedrock of the Community
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ANACS thought this was Unc. I agree as I don't see any wear on the coin. I also thought they were a little rough on the grading as I don't believe this is a 0 out of 10 within the spectrum of uncirculated coins. This one should come in this week and will post pictures when it does, although I am not feeling that confident about my photo skills at the moment.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The old soapbars had explicit net grading on label so don't know why they would need to do net grade the way that other TPGs do. Example below:  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yup, NS, you are correct. Old(er) age strikes again!
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Bedrock of the Community
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So you own this in the ANACS holder - ?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sticking with high AU / slider. I don't know if that's a scratch or a planchet flaw. Might not be possible to tell without scoping it or popping it out of the holder, but it's a collectible holder with a straight grade and that probably wouldn't be wise!
ANACS put this at 60, but I'm not sure if that's because they consider it an Uncirculated coin with issues, or couldn't decide between high AU/low MS, or what their reason was.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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mintage numbers of these and surviving pieces they are more rare than many series with less than 8mm total coins minted from 1793 to 1851. plus they have a cool history I would not call any issue in the classic head post-1825 or braided hair Half Cent series rare, not even close. They are hardly scarce in the uncirculated grades. The series as a whole did not circulate much so the survival rate is incredibly high comparing to other regular circulation issues. The mintage numbers mean nothing especially considering they are not accurate to the individual dates. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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The last photos make this look like an EF-45 coin. I see all the same markers but holy cow, what am I missing, it doesn't look like the same coin? I can't buy this as MS no matter what the holder says.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree, don't see this as Unc or even close.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 I'm lowering my grade from AU58 to AU55. bad original photo. grade the coin not the holder |
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That would say a lot about ANACS grading in the soapbar era if this was XF45, lol. I think the issue is that the two bright light source setup for coin photography that I have, works well for lustrous Morgans, but not so well for coppers. The coppers appear very light brown under the bright lamps whereas they look a darker shade of brown under normal lighting conditions. But leaving them dark obscures the color and marks on the surface of the coin. It seems like this is all a process where I am far from capturing images well, especially through an imperfect sheet of plastic. It will take time.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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NS I sure hope the coin looks better than the last photos you posted. They were too washed out to get a feel for the true color of the coin. Photo lighting is always tricky.
What your photos did show though is the darker greyish color on the high points indicating wear.
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02/29/2024 5:10 pm
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