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Gcmc070714,  . You may want to work on posting a bit better photos in the future. The better the pics you post the better we can help you. tyr4nt, sometimes they are called spooned coins,but I think a cent or a dime is too small to make a ring.Also,on spooned coins the edge most times will look hammered not a smooth surface like a Dryer Coin will have. John1  |
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Yes they can be called 'spooned' as well. But I usually only call a spooned coin if the edges are very smooth and uniform - not all randomly beat up all to heck like this one.
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But I usually only call a spooned coin if the edges are very smooth I think the opposite. A spooned coin should have a "hammered" look not smooth. John1 |
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@Gcmc070714:
Additionally, coin are not struck on blanks - they get struck on Planchets
Blanks are fed into an 'upsetting mill' and a proto rim is added to it, and then is called a planchet.
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Additionally, coin are not struck on blanks - they get struck on Planchets It's the equivalent to someone calling a cent a penny, a blank and a planchet. There is a difference in both situations. John1 |
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I haven't yet encountered anyone talking about spooned zinc cents. I have to imagine that zinc would make a terrible ring. Silver, copper, cupronickel—sure, but not zinc. Dryer Coin seems like the plausible conclusion here. |
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yes, true, but still...  |
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A spooned coin will not have any damage to the surfaces like this one does, just the edge. A spooned coin doesn't necessarily have to be made into a coin. Sometimes it's just to see if you can do it.
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Additionally, coin are not struck on blanks - they get struck on Planchets Quote:
So there are no known examples of coins struck on blanks erroneously? |
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Lastly, while we're dumping on the ZLincons...
Mid-year 1982 the mint switched from solid planchets (95% copper 5% zinc) to Copper-plated Zinc. For the first couple of years, the plating was even thinner than it is today and it flaked off easily.
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John1, thanks for the link. So coins are known that have been struck on blanks. I do not believe this to be the case concerning this coin, yet to state that coins are not struck on blanks is not entirely accurate.
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So there are no known examples of coins struck on blanks erroneously? Is that what I said? Hmm ANYTHING can happen, but you took my statement far too far to the literal end. I never said that blanks don't get struck by the dies I said that coin are struck on planchets. not blanks I don't think a blank could entirely fit between the collar as a blank would be a bit too large in diameter before the upsetting mils reduced them a tiny bit. As with the example on Error.ref - that was only 'partially' struck (could it not fit properly in the chamber? Who knows, I don't work at the Mint.) But to me a half struck blank to me is not a coin yet. |
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If you want to be really pedantic, it is a coin when it's monetized by the government (Mint + Fed). Until then it's just inventory.
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Sorry Dearborn. I was just a bit confused because I was sure that I had read somewhere in the past of examples of blanks having been struck It must have been the same link provided earlier. My intention was not to offend anyone. Sorry about that.
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Uncirculated American Silver Eagles 
