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1893-S Barber Half Dollar Thoughts

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 Posted 04/15/2024  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
VG10 max.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'll go with VG.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list
Thanks all. PCGS has this in an F-12 holder. My personal opinion is that it was borderline F-12. Wish I could see this one in hand, the surfaces do look slightly "shiny" to me, but maybe that is just the photo.

@BH1964 - That is a really nice G6, love the surfaces on it. I am targeting F-VF for my Dansco though.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
VG10 would have been my suggestion as well. It's really probably VG11. I just can't get to F12 without 100% complete LIBERTY.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
panzaldi - defend your F-12 grade, please.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Im at VG as well.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Thanks for the update on the F-12 grade. I just seriously disagree with this.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I agree with you, Frog.

I would note that I feel like there has been a lot of market pressure on TPG's by dealers to get more Barber coins into F-VF range holders due to high demand and short supply.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
The PCGS grade of F-12 makes a mockery of every grading guide on Barber halves issued in the last 50 years.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
Well, PCGS own grade standards (photo) ........what say you?
10
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12
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And please - just grade the coin, not entering in any instantiated factors.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ericgreen to your friends list
Obverse is in-between. Focusing solely on Liberty, it is a VG-10. However, the last laurel leaf at the back is stronger than even the F-12 photograde. Reverse of the coin is F-12, imo. So, I agree with paralyse that this is a VG-11.
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 Posted 04/15/2024  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Thanks. Confirms this is just a 10 by PCGS's own standards. Sooner or later the buyer who pays 12 money will regret it.
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 Posted 04/16/2024  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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panzaldi - defend your F-12 grade, please


i never grade a coin based on one marker. I look at the overall coin for the sharpness of its devices.

obv. - the ear has more definition than a 10 as well as all the leaves where 75% of them still have their tips separated. the lips are more rounded. stars and lettering have sharper edges. I agree that LIBERTY is closer to a 10 but looking at only one marker is not prudent.

rev - rim is sharper and more defined than a 10, leaves on the olive branch are more rounded. the tail has a tad more feather separation and imo the lettering and overall look of the reverse is a little better than a 10.

could it pull a VG10. Yep. imo there is enough meat there that it could cross to a F12 and therefore my grade
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 Posted 04/16/2024  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list
My first reaction was F-12 the laurel curl and at least 50% BER of Liberty clinches it then the overall eye appeal takes any doubt away. Reverse no issues F12 also. Even in a VG10 holder one could expect paying a premium for this coin. Tough date in any grade above G6 I like this coin and love all Barbers.
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