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Could Eliminating The Penny Finally Happen?

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 Posted 12/10/2024  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I knew that would rub people the wrong way.

My priority is getting the cent and nickel to NIFC status.

However, if given the option, I would accept a zinc five cents coin if it mean the cent were made NIFC.

But I really want both to go away. I am not convinced a zinc-nickel would be cost effective for long.
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 Posted 12/10/2024  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldno7 to your friends list
Current transactions are no where near 90% plastic!! As for me in a very rural area probably 70% of transactions are still in cash and we get a discount for using it.

As far as the Cent goes it really does need to go away!!
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 Posted 12/11/2024  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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...and we get a discount for using it.
A good example to support rounding down all cash sales when we get rid of the cent.
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 Posted 12/11/2024  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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All the more reason to just use plastic at the self-check.


....and sell your soul to the plastic Gods.

Nearly all my public transactions are in cash. I also usually have a pocket full of change so I can control what, if any, change I'll get back. The plastic overlords have no idea what I'm doing for the most part. I also deny location on my phone (only turn on when I need it) so the google all-seeing eye doesn't know squat about my travels either.

When the Capital One commercial plays I always answer: CASH DUMMY!

Nobody can completely hide these days though. I have to use plastic/paypal/whatever on the web.....all trackable with my information sold to the highest bidder. My philosophy is to give them as little as possible!
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Jarden Zinc Products spent $140k lobbying in FY2024.


It's been that way for decades. JZP changed their name to Artazn.

We've had enough of this government waste. It mostly exists today to line the pockets of the fatcats and bureaucrats in charge. The factory and labor skills at Artazn would better put to use doing something more productive for society than making government slugs at the taxpayer expense.

And, don't get me started on the cost and waste of loading pallets of these on diesel trucks and driving them all over America. That cost far exceeds the Mint's fake "production cost"....funny, they never include transportation of billions of tons of metal nor the cost of labor for the folks stuck moving them around over and over and over.
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 Posted 12/12/2024  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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....and sell your soul to the plastic Gods.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
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 Posted 12/13/2024  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
It may have sailed but you can limit the number of sailors onboard! :)
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 Posted 12/15/2024  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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It may have sailed but you can limit the number of sailors onboard! :)
To be clear, it is implied I am on that ship. More room for me then.
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 Posted 01/18/2025  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goobot to your friends list

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Current transactions are no where near 90% plastic!! As for me in a very rural area probably 70% of transactions are still in cash and we get a discount for using it.

As far as the Cent goes it really does need to go away!!

After Covid digital transaction hit something like 75%. There is a pushback tho now with businesses charging the consumer the transaction fee
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 Posted 01/18/2025  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list

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There is a pushback tho now with businesses charging the consumer the transaction fee


Which the CCs allowed them to do because of Covid, but then they never switched back.
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Prices: Be quick to raise, slower to lower.

Ah yes, the Exxon model. =P
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 Posted 01/18/2025  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Problem is you've just cratered your best argument.

If 75% of transactions are digital, there's no problem with cent transactions. The commercial benefit was eliminating the need to handle physical cents.
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 Posted 01/18/2025  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goobot to your friends list
You could probably just stop producing cents and leave the current ones in circulation and you'd be fine. By time they started to disappear naturally it wouldn't even matter anymore
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 Posted 01/20/2025  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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You could probably just stop producing cents and leave the current ones in circulation and you'd be fine. By time they started to disappear naturally it wouldn't even matter anymore
They would be gone in six months, a year tops. Adapt fast, the detractors must.
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