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1803 C-2 1/2c New Terminal Die State Struck Through A Steel-Nibbed And Wood Stylus Pen?

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 Posted 09/03/2025  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
Looks more like a bent coin somebody tried pounding back into shape with a piece of leather over the obverse.
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 Posted 09/03/2025  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
Marve65: That's what it may "look like", but that's not what it is
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 Posted 09/03/2025  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
I agree with Marve - a bent coin. Doesn't look like a Greaser to me.
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 Posted 09/03/2025  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list
Check this extreme error out! It was struck through a ball bearing, creating a hole in the middle of the coin!!! Crazy error!! In addition, there were a number of wires on the reverse die, creating another strike though error! I know this coin looks damaged, but it is not, these are errors!! Don't even try to disagree, because I know everything!

Ball bearings were invented in 1794, so that makes it true! What a spectacular error, one of a kind!


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 Posted 09/03/2025  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
Fantastic error, Red Raider - that's a really valuable coin! I think that I see multiple Cuds on it too.
Your coin reminded me that I have this 1808 Half Cent that was struck through Thomas Jefferson's kerchief - on both sides! He was still in office that year so it must be true.
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 Posted 09/03/2025  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnhenry9009 to your friends list
I think this topic should be locked.
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 Posted 09/03/2025  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list
Agreed....It should have been locked a long time ago!
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 Posted 09/03/2025  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
Hahaha you guys are funny; we're all ROLF
When you stop being juvenile, you may learn something
btw: There is a difference between a coin being bent, and a coin being struck by a sinking die
Here's a link to a mid-die state example; sure looks "bent" to me, but it isn't; the sinking of the reverse die is obvious and that is irreversible

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...-45-pcgs-cac
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 Posted 09/03/2025  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I think this topic should be locked.

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Agreed....It should have been locked a long time ago!
You can always choose to not participate in this topic.

I see no reason to lock it. Yet.
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 Posted 09/14/2025  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
"Having the rims upset after striking is a ridiculous and misleading statement. Rims on a coin were meant to assist detail to be fully struck along the edge of the coin. Without an upsetting mill pre-strike, the dentils would hardly be seen on any coin."
I have it in hand now, before shipping-off tomorrow to be certified and sold. Here is a clear pic of the Upsetting ameliorating the edge incursion @ A2 reverse. You can actually see the rounded edge in this earlier picture. Plenty of denticles too! I'll have other pics...
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 Posted 09/15/2025  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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Plenty of denticles too!

You proved my point.

Looking forward to certified pics.
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 Posted 09/15/2025  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
jacrispies: I proved no such thing... honestly I can't figure-out what your "game" is. You never saw it in hand (so how you can blithely decree anything? It's like you're living Plato's Parable of the Cave. The coin is completely Upset over the edge damage. The die break line at AMER... shows clearly on top of the M. Struck through whether you like it or not. What more do you want?
Parable of the Cave
Plato's "Allegory of the Cave," found in Book 7 of The Republic, outlines a philosophical journey from ignorance to enlightenment.
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 Posted 09/15/2025  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
This shows the real length of 1/2C denticles "back then"
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 Posted 09/15/2025  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Upsetringmill to your friends list
Is that just for Half Cents, or did large cents also have longer denticles than I would have guessed?
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 Posted 09/16/2025  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldgrouchyguy to your friends list
Upsetringmill: The denticles were punched in from the edge of the die
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