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Dads 1909-S VDB

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 Posted 07/30/2009  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Get that coin slabbed! If you love your sons, you will get it done. Should they ever need the money, you wouldn't want them to get ripped off if it is indeed genuine. Once it's graded, the value is known and you can put a note with the coin.
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 Posted 07/30/2009  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
alright already!...I'll get it slabbed darn it! SHEESH! ;)


Do you guys beat-up all newbies this way...


I've got a couple of places here in town that advertise with the pcgs...I'll have a look at 'em in the upcoming week...


Thanks again for the help...
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 Posted 07/30/2009  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Do you guys beat-up all newbies this way...


Anything to insure a "numismatic" future!
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 Posted 07/30/2009  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
I'm almost glad that dads collection doesn't have a 1955 double die now...

I'd hate to see what you ppl would do to someone then... :P
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 Posted 07/31/2009  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

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Do you guys beat-up all newbies this way...

most newbies don't come around with $1000+ coins
I certainly hope that you have success with authentication, there are only four mint mark positions and that is one marker for authentication. Look here for pics of those positions. The pics are not good enough for me to match it but better pics(straight on and perfectly focused) would help or you can try to match it too.
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 Posted 07/31/2009  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electric_Op_Ltd to your friends list
Hey Bio that link was cool, thanks!

As far as "beating up" - Theres a story somewhere I read about a guy who spent his whole career collecting valuable coins. True to what he was taught, he was careful to acquire key issues and high grade pieces. His plan was to use the funds for retirement when he went to sell them.

Guess what? 1916-D Merc: Added mm. Gold half eagles: Whizzed. 1909-S VDB: Added mm. High Relief double eagle: Struck counterfeit. Some of his major silver pieces had been dipped. He ended up with a pile of junk. he had taken great care to purchase them from dealers who were very reputable, but so many years had passed that he had no way of getting any recompensation or redress as most had gone out of business or died or moved. Yikes!

There are those of us (like me) who wish that slabs were never invented; at the inception of TPG's there was a huge craze to trade in coins as commodities, and everyone started to buy the slab and not the coin. That didn't last too long but I chellenge you to go find certain coins outside of holders, like Merc dimes, Walking halves and esp. Morgans. I like raw coins, but I only buy them in certain venues.. and still nothing's 100% foolproof.

When you're talking about very expensive key issues like 09-S vdb, you can't take chances with a fake. They are very hard to detect sometimes. There's a thread currently here about fake coins in TPG Slabs --- good lord if they can fool PCGS graders......

Words of wisdom here from the community. I hope it's all good in the end but all of us here have heard horror stories, and we don't want it to happen to you becuase we LOVE you man!

Best

Bruce
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 Posted 07/31/2009  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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I'm almost glad that dads collection doesn't have a 1955 double die now...



Oh no, we are the evil coin guys! LOL Trust us, we only want to help. Most of us have been screwed in one form or another, it creates a strong desire to make sure other people don't. This is a very rare $1000+ coin (if genuine), it's well worth the effort and money to give yourself some peace of mind.

Now...let the beatings continue....it's called a doublED die. Sorry....couldn't resist! LOLOLOL
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 Posted 07/31/2009  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list


Would I get booted from the forum if I were to call BadThad an a**hole?

If so, then I won't do it...

all kidding aside...I appreciate the help here folks...

Thank you for putting up with me...

Scott
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 Posted 08/01/2009  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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if I were to call BadThad


Actually, I'm surprised a couple of your words haven't been removed, even the one with the asterisks in it. This is a family-friendly forum.
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 Posted 08/01/2009  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
Being a "newbie" here doesn't excuse my manners...

You're right Steve199...and I do apologize. It won't happen again.

I've taken a couple more pics that show the mm in better detail. I'll try and get them resized and posted tonight.
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 Posted 08/02/2009  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Ahhh....he's just kidding! No offense taken at all.
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 Posted 08/02/2009  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list
Just s'more pics of the MM...

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Dads-1909-S-VDB

Now...just a quick question...

What's better...showing the pics inside the forum?

or is it better for me to simply post the links to the pics?
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 Posted 08/02/2009  03:03 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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or is it better for me to simply post the links to the pics?


I prefer the pics in the forum as you have done.

The MM location looks okay to me. The debris around the MM would require careful removal and I would do it if this were my piece.

I have used solvents like acetone to "loosen up" debris and then carefully touched it off with wooden toothpicks or plastic dental scalers.

A safer alternative is to send it to a major TPG for slabbing of course.
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 Posted 08/18/2009  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
I think the MM is authentic, too. Just some dirt around it, showing there may have been some cleaning in the past...

Still a VERY valauble and cool coin!

Your grandchildren will thank you!
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 Posted 08/21/2009  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hrhomer to your friends list
Much better pics - MM looks to match one of the four positions in the previously referenced thread. Nice!

Joe
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