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Beware Of 10 Cent Rolls.

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 Posted 10/30/2009  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list
Short rolls is a common problem at all banks.
It happens less with paper rolls, but is very common with plastic rolls.

There is a simple reason for this coin short problem.
Take nickels for example:

Pre-1982 Cdn nickels are 1.70 mm thick
Post-1981 Cdn nickels are 1.76 mm thick
That extra 0.06 mm becomes 2.4 mm after 40 nickels are stacked or takes the room away from 1.5 nickels.

This explains why some plastic holders are always short one nickel, because there is not enough room. They were designed for older nickels.

It gets worse if any US nickels are present, they are 1.95 mm thick.

Same issue exists with dimes. It is not a problem with pennies because they became thinner after 1981.

This is why I prefer the cardboard tube holders with the fold-in end.
They accomodate all thicknesses of coins.
Edited by 1945V
10/30/2009 08:22 am
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Canada
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 Posted 10/30/2009  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malibu to your friends list
Snowy,

A horrible experience...but I'm impressed you went right back to the branch and even more impressed they took this seriously AND found more in the vault AND admitted they were responsible! I would expect the manager of a chartered Cdn bank to come out, deny everything, treat the customer with suspicion and conduct a private investigation.

I'm sickened by what happened to you but glad you were treated this well by the bank...silver lining on every cloud!
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 Posted 10/30/2009  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psi to your friends list
I'm a bit surprised that those rolls actually came in a shipment from another bank. Most banks seem to pass off customer wrapped rolls to other customers without checking them, but I've never seen anything that bad. Dimes are pretty common in penny rolls though so it seems to even out in the long run.
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 Posted 10/30/2009  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdcoinman to your friends list
I have a coinmaster made in Canada to sort out my pocket change.I always place my loose change in the appropriate slots and found out that when it is full(no more room to add another coin)the 25¢ slot is not large enough to accomodate 40 but only 39.Same for the dimes,49 instead of 50.
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 Posted 10/30/2009  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oasis to your friends list
Whenever I was roll searching I would often come up short but I would just email the Royal Bank and complain and they would always credit my account. Sure the amounts were always small but at least they took the time to fix anything whenever I was short.
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 Posted 10/31/2009  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add unnkown95 to your friends list
they should start weighing the rolls at the bank to make sure its right and really are dimes or nicles
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 Posted 11/01/2009  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list
They should require the depositors account number on the roll or clear.
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 Posted 11/01/2009  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list
Unknown95,

Weighing won't work, even excluding silver and American dimes,
Post-1968 Canadian dimes have three different weights:
1968 to 1978 dimes weigh 2.08 grams
1979 to 2000 dimes weigh 2.07 grams
2000 to present dimes weigh 1.75 grams
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 Posted 11/01/2009  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list
Mr.Canada,

I am not too crazy about putting personal information like account numbers or telephone numbers on coin rolls.

My RBC branch has a good approach.
I often deposit bundles of coins and they simply attached a copy of my deposit slip onto the bundle and the teller tosses out the deposit slip when all the rolls have been withdrawn from the bundle or someone requests the entire bundle of rolls.
Edited by 1945V
11/01/2009 10:37 pm
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 Posted 11/04/2009  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list
When I ran coin operated equipment, I had to either sign each roll of quarters, (I had a stamp), or empty the rolls into $500 bags of loose coin.
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 Posted 11/04/2009  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list
Whenever I go to my bank to exchange rolls, the tellers open and count everything, I thought this was standard practice at all banks. I realize this is not practical for large deposits, I always assumed there were coin counters for that.

I didn't know the trust system still existed in the banking sector... Though I don't think it is unreasonable to open and count rolls, since many people are bad with numbers.

Edited by gawd0wns
11/04/2009 5:36 pm
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 Posted 11/04/2009  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
I worked in a bank for years and started on cash (Bank of Montreal) and when I took rolls of quarters or dimes it was very simple ... you rake your fingernail over the them to check for the reeding. It only takes a second ... much faster and easier than removing them from the paper rolls and having to re-roll them later. Before I started, it was the honour system until they got burned with a bunch of quarter/washers. Then the policy was to open them and roll them back up later. Needless to say they liked my way of doing it better.
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 Posted 11/04/2009  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list
So, what can we fill a roll of absolutely Gem, "mint rolled and end sealed " from China 1925 nickels with? just kidding , but is it possible
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 Posted 11/06/2009  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list
Wow.... It's surprising to see the banks still get fooled!
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 Posted 11/06/2009  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acidic1 to your friends list
No banks in my small town will take rolled coins. They made me crack'em open right there. Threw'em in the counter.
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