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Safe Storage? -- 2x2 Cardboard Holders Question

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 Posted 11/04/2009  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list
Ive never used them but have bought a Franklin proof that was in one and left a sticky spot on the edge of the coin, I brought it back to the dealer and he gave me $5 off the original price
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 Posted 11/05/2009  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oober to your friends list
Adhesives will usually migrate, I wouldn't use any adhesive near anything of value. Adhesive will eventually get on it.
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 Posted 11/05/2009  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tumbleweedtrumpet to your friends list
I don't trust 2x2's. I don not know why, I just don't.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list
I never used the sticky ones, but I would stay away from the stapled kind for long time storage. I just helped a friend with an inherited coin collection that included some beautiful BU Morgans. The staples had crroded/deteroiated and discolored the coins.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AGCoinHunter to your friends list
The big thing with staples is humidity. If they are in an area where its warm and moist, they will corrode. I have all mine in 2x2's with staples but am thinking of moving them to more suitable storage.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erwindoc to your friends list
Staples scratch. I have several in my personal collection that have been ruined by a staple from the coin in front of it. I have seen lots in dealer stock with the tell tale ruin too.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list
I recently made some discoveries on the staples. Yep, they scratch coins. But far more often, they tear the plastic off of the 2X2 next to them. I still haven't gotten a clinching stapler, but I spent a LOT of time using a needle nose pliers clinching the staples in all my older stored coins. In fact, the pliers are a new part of my routine, put all coins in 2X2's, clinch the staples, sort, label, store. In that order.
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 Posted 11/06/2009  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list

If you have a fold flat stapler or crimp them with pliers, then the staples are of little concern. Of course, a significant number of collectors do not spend the money on a quality stapler or take the time to crimp, just like some show dealers still use PVC flips

As for the adhesive 2x2s, I do not personally object to them but I have found that the adhesive loses its grip after a few years on some. I like the standard 2x2s because they can be reused. I have had some of my coins in 2x2s for over 25 years and they are still in perfectly fine condition, the ambient storage conditions will affect coins the most.
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 Posted 11/07/2009  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list
As far as the adhesive 2x2's go, I don't trust them. I can be a bit clumsy, and just know I'd glue one of my coins.

I do use the staple type, and find no problem if I take a needle-nose and clinch the ends of the staples. I've learned to staple on the outer edge of the 2x2, as far from the coin as I can. I also, when taking a coin out of a 2x2, remove the staples completely first, removing any scratching damage possibility.
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 Posted 11/07/2009  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list
I've never used them. All of my 2x2's are the staple type. I have gotten very adept at using a small craft hammer to flatten the staples out. I've never hit a coin. Would love to have a flat clinch stapler, that is definitely the way to go. I've only ever scratched one coin and that was before I knew any better and didn't flatten the staples. I too would be afraid the adhesive ones wouldn't last and was afraid the coins might start falling out of them also. That's just my fear and not my experience. I think a person should do what they are comfortable with.
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 Posted 11/07/2009  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
I have both self-adhesive and staple 2x2s in my stockpile; I just grab whichever type happens to be on top of the pile that's the right size. I've had no major incidents with either type, for the past couple of decades at least.

Occasionally I've had self-adhesive ones that don't stick, but I've never seen one where the adhesive fails after a long time; for me, it either fails straight away (within a day of putting the coin in there) or it never fails.

I've heard that some brands of adhesive work much better if you give the exposed glue some "air time" before sealing it up. I'm slow and uncoordinated when I'm making up 2x2s, so my self-adhesives usually get plenty of air time anyways.
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 Posted 11/08/2009  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seth to your friends list
I wouldn't touch a pre-tack adhesive anywhere near something I want to archive long term. There are a few (VERY few) used by museums, etc., but we can bet the 2x2s are made in China out of who-knows-what glue.
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 Posted 05/06/2010  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list
I've been using the non-adhesive type, and I haven't been stapling them - just putting them in mylar 20-coin sheets while I get everything sorted. They are in a dehumidified basement, so I wasn't worrying about making them air tight, but perhaps I should... I've been under the presumption that the cardboard 2x2s are made with mylar, as well - is that correct?
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 Posted 05/06/2010  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list
I also use the 2 X 2's that are stapled closed. I flatten down the crimped over staples, than put the 2 X 2's in my album using Lead Dog No PVC content 2 X 2 display sheets. Than the album goes in a large Rubbermaid container with a pouch of desiccant. I've read where some people use 2 X 2 Manila Envelopes for storage as well.
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 Posted 05/07/2010  10:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list
Ah... cool, rasta... but are all 2x2 cardboards made with mylar, or should I watch out for a particular brand?
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