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The New 2010 Shield Cent Design, Like/Dislike? Opinions

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 Posted 12/30/2009  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
Are the numbers in for the LP4 mintages or are they still minting them?

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12/30/2009 5:40 pm
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 Posted 12/30/2009  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neil to your friends list
This is from Michael Z. at Mint News Blog on 12-7:

..."By backing the final mintages of the first three designs from the year to date production totals, possible mintages for the Presidency Cent come in at 198.00 million Denver Mint coins and 129.60 million Philadelphia Mint coins. These figures would be far enough below the existing low to cause some excitement."
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 Posted 12/30/2009  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
If they are still minting them it won't be for much longer. By law they HAVE to stop tomorrow.
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 Posted 12/30/2009  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
If that's close to the amount of LP4's minted, they are really rare. I think I'm getting off topic here, but here goes:

LP1-P: 284,400,000
LP1-D: 350,400,000 .....total = 634,800,000

LP2-P : 376,000,000
LP2-D: 363,600,000 .... total = 739,600,000

LP3-P: 316,000,000
LP3-D: 336,000,000 ....total = 652,000,000

LP4-P: 129,600,000
LP4-D: 198,000,000 ....total = 327,000,000 (will be revised when the mint stops tomorrow)

total 2009 Lincoln cents minted = 2,353,400,000.

2.353 billion for the year 2009 from both mints. They're the rare considering the past three decades minted:

1979: 10.1 billion
1980: 12.1 billion
1981: 12.9 billion
1982: 16.7 billion
1983: 14.3 billion
1984: 13.8 billion
1985: 10.9 billion
1986: 8.9 billion
1987: 9.6 billion
1988: 11.4 billion
1989: 12.6 billion
1990: 11.8 billion
1991: 9.4 billion
1992: 9.0 billion
1993: 12.1 billion
1994: 13.6 billion
1995: 13.5 billion
1996: 13.1 billion
1997: 9.2 billion
1998: 10.2 billion
1999: 10.6 billion
2000: 14.3 billion
2001: 10.3 billion
2002: 7.3 billion
2003: 6.9 billion
2004: 7.6 billion
2005: 7.9 billion
2006: 7.6 billion
2007: 7.3 billion
2008: 5.3 billion
2009: 2.4 billion (and there are 4 different designs)

They're the rarest since 1959 with 1.8 billion and 1960 with 2.1 billion minted.

BACK ON TOPIC RE: 2010 COINS:

It's safe to say the new-design 2010 Lincoln cents will be more common than the 2009 cents.
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01/02/2010 11:36 am
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 Posted 01/02/2010  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Terror Of Zanarkand to your friends list
I don't love it, I don't hate it. It's boring. Which is sad. They could have done a better job. If the government is tired of the memorial, why not put the wheat reverse back on? Or redesign the cent altogether?
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 Posted 01/02/2010  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brannenworks to your friends list
For comparison, here are the 5 cent Euro coin reverses, which depend on the country:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_cent_euro_coins

I like Finland (reminds me of the reverses on British sovereigns), France (a modern version of Marianne), and Slovakia (a mountain), and maybe Italy (reminds me of Lincoln memorial).

Note that the obverse of our cent has a head of state on it, which makes us look like the coins from the states that have a king or queen. I think that's disgusting, and we would do better to put general female figures on our coins (as we did in the past) such as the French example, or other general images.

It turns out that the French have drifted away from using an anonymous woman for Marianne and now use stars and personalities, starting with Brigitte Bardot in 1969 (since fined several times for "inciting racial hatred"). Predictably, it then drifted to the point of being chosen by politicians:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne

I say it's only a matter of time before France begins putting the images of former leaders on their coins. Of course, being a physicist with a paper coming out this week on gravitation, I vote for Paul Painleve:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Painlev%C3%A9
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 Posted 01/02/2010  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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If that's close to the amount of LP4's minted, then they are really rare.

Yep really rare, why the LP4 P mint Lincoln is as rare as the 1941-D Wheat cent. (Why am I not impressed?)
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 Posted 01/18/2010  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sgriffis74 to your friends list
This is the best they could come up with? I mean really after all the State Quarters, Jefferson nickels and Lincoln bicentennial this is the best we get. I hate it.
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 Posted 01/18/2010  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
After seeing these numbers on the LP cents total mintages I'm not so sure I will keep hoarding them. They may be lower mintages than many other years, but 2.3 billion? That's not rare, I don't care how you look at it.
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 Posted 02/11/2010  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MessyBarista to your friends list
I would have liked to have seen some wheat. Maybe two on each side of the words "One Cent"
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 Posted 02/16/2010  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jason11006 to your friends list
Just got my Shield cent in the mail. Thank you very much
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 Posted 02/16/2010  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
What will be rare, will be some in good condition ! ...... ....(speaking of the LP1, LP2, LP3, and the LP4 Cents)

They seem to get into REALLY bad shape REALLY quickly in the wild !


By the way........ I noticed that the LP4 Cent is still available for sale in two roll sets, on the U.S. Mint's website, for those interested.
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02/16/2010 3:22 pm
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 Posted 02/21/2010  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelplus to your friends list
It's ok... not as good as the previous wheat bundle design.
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 Posted 03/27/2010  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 2020 C to your friends list
Me... I find it more appealing than the Memorial design and slightly better than the Wheat design . The Memorial design never did that much for me .
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 Posted 03/28/2010  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list

Quote:
Conder101: ...the LP4 P mint Lincoln is as (low-mintage) as the 1941-D Wheat cent.


Quote:
eaglefoot: What will be rare, will be some in good condition! They seem to get into REALLY bad shape REALLY quickly in the wild!

A number of 1941-D and other common Wheat Cents were in circulation
until at least the 1970's, and they held up very nicely.

No one here is foolish enough to think that a zinc Cent could
circulate for three decades straight and still be an aesthetically
pleasing problem free coin (with only the appropriate circulation wear)!

The zinc LP× Cents that are collected in the future will be from the
BU Cents that have been hoarded today. Conder would likely point out
that zinc LP× Cents have been hoarded in far greater numbers than
any common Wheat cent (so far more will survive as BU coins), but
this is counterbalanced with the fact that zinc Cents simply won't
stand up to decades of circulation as their copper ancestors did.
The rarest LP× Cents in the last part of this century may end up
being problem-free AU/XF examples that were pulled from circulation
before they could deteriorate.

I've already run into some trashy-looking 2009 zinc LP× Cents.
This does not bode well for the 23 2010-P Shield Cents that I spent
today in memory of Gary Burke, but I'm hoping that these Shield
Cents will be quickly hoarded from circulation (especially as they
are P's, and BU 'P' coins of any type are virtually impossible to
come by in Denver circulation....)
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