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Question: Are All 1921 Peace Dollars High Relief?

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 Posted 12/16/2009  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollarcoins to your friends list
Thank you, DL20K and Moe145.

The reason why I asked is because I want to purchase a 1921 high relief Peace dollar. I found out that if a 1921 Peace dollar with a high relief label, the price is about two fold of a 1921 Peace dollar without the words "high relief." I was wondering whether the PCGS did not include "high relief" for the coins it graded in old times and added high relief to all recent slabbed coins.
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 Posted 12/16/2009  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I found out that if a 1921 Peace dollar with a high relief label, the price is about two fold of a 1921 Peace dollar without the words "high relief."


I would not trust any place where that were true. The price of any coin is dependent only upon its' condition, rarity and demand; people who will pay more for a 1921 Peace simply because it says "High Relief" don't understand coins and are likely to pay far too much.

Do you know what grade (and therefore price) you're looking for?
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 Posted 12/16/2009  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollarcoins to your friends list
To SuperDave
Based on my ebay observations, I found the PCGS MS63 with the words "high relief" is sold about $350-$400. However, the PCGS MS63 without the words is usually sold between $200-$300.

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 Posted 12/16/2009  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
It is simply a matter of incredibly uninformed buyers but that is ebay for you...
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 Posted 12/16/2009  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list
Don't worry,all 1921 Peace dollars are high relief.Watch for weak strikes,they are very common.Get the best one you can afford.You won't regret it....
Cheers,Brewzz
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 Posted 12/17/2009  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollarcoins to your friends list
Thank you, all.

As mentioned by Brewzz, is it a possibility that the PCGS grades a 1921 peace with a weak strike as a label without the words "high relief"? Or it's simply that the company change the words on the label?
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 Posted 12/17/2009  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Or it's simply that the company change the words on the label?


This. PCGS has changed the design of their slab many times over the years, and it can't be anything but their label design since all 1921's are high relief.

For the record, I'd borrow money to buy every_single example I could find in PCGS MS63 at $300. That's a steal.
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 Posted 12/17/2009  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollarcoins to your friends list
Again, thank you for the information, SuperDave. (I am waiting for my flowing hair dollar. )

I have been working on my dollar type coins. I try to buy one 1921 "high relief" Peace dollar (for my set registry). The registry requires a high relief Peace dollar. However, I was not really sure whether a 1921 Peace dollar without a high relief label is a high relief coin. Now I know this. Next time when I see a 1921 PCGS Peace dollar without the words "high relief" with a low bid, I will go for it. Hopefully I will get one at a "reasonable" price.

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 Posted 12/17/2009  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list

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However, I am not really sure whether a 1921 Peace dollar without a high relief label is a high relief coin.


All 1921 Peace dollars are "high relief" ... on the label or not!
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 Posted 12/18/2009  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Next time when I see a 1921 PCGS Peace dollar without the words "high relief" with a low bid, I will go for it.


Absolutely. You seem quite aware of what you're looking for, and patient enough to wait for the right deal. The beauty of ebay is that a patient, knowledgeable buyer can occasionally get real steals; there are plenty of stories around CCF to this effect.

Good luck, and feel free to brag here when you get it.
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 Posted 12/18/2009  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dollarcoins to your friends list
Brewzz: Thank you for finding this very beautiful coin!

However, as a new coin collector, I would be hesitate to bid this coin. It seems that the slab is neither PCGS nor NGC. Also, it's a private auction. (private listing - bidders' identities protected) I guess if I want to bid a coin like this, I can post it on this forum and ask for the opinions.

I use the ebay auto search (1921 PCGS peace). I receive a daily update of coins that meet this criterion. Thus, I did not see this coin before.
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 Posted 12/19/2009  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list

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It seems that the slab is neither PCGS nor NGC

That is exactly what I suggest to new bidders but I maybe would add ANACS to the list as well but the reason is these basement slabbers like the one in the picture has no guarantee with their grading and most of the time the coin will be no where near the grade they have placed on the plastic shell encasing the coin unless it is by the ones mentioned. These are not the only companies that have a guarantee but they have the most consistent grading that is closest to the grading standards to where you can feel pretty comfortable buying a coin in their slabs until you feel more comfortable grading for yourself
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 Posted 12/20/2009  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list

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However, as a new coin collector, I would be hesitate to bid this coin. It seems that the slab is neither PCGS nor NGC. Also, it's a private auction. (private listing - bidders' identities protected) I guess if I want to bid a coin like this, I can post it on this forum and ask for the opinions.


Also reputable is ANACS and ICG. Anyone else I would pass on by if you're buying high-end coins online. Also, be very weary about buying coins from sellers who don't offer a return policy.
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 Posted 12/21/2009  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brewzz to your friends list
Here's another nice one.I have bought a lot of coins from these guys.They are very trustworthy...
Cheers,Brewzz
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