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 Posted 01/22/2010  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Shipping to Canada is quite easy as well as shipping to Australia and some European countries. I personally have no problem shipping internationally to anyone on the forum but I am much more restrictive on ebay becuase the level of trust is significantly lower. I have seen many sellers get negative feedback because the buyer either thinks the seller should be responsible for import duties incurred or wants the seller to mark an item as "gift" to illegally avoid import and customs duties.
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 Posted 01/22/2010  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add norham to your friends list
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 Posted 01/22/2010  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Neil to your friends list
You may get negged for delay in shipping time even though package is sitting in customs or s-l-o-w Canadian mail delivery.
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 Posted 01/22/2010  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Some years back my Son spent a semester at the University of Krakow. Part of the program from his college here was to travel accross Europe from Belgium to Poland and after the semester, travel back. In almost every country he asked people if it was OK to send coins of their country to me. About half said it was against the law there to send any of their currency out of the country. Of course being a kid, he did anyway and it just went through as mail. He was told that some countries are so strick about it that it comes with prison time. Again, in school in Poland, the other kids all said, YEAH, Right.
Not sure how it works but he did send some of our coins to someone in Germany several times when he got back. Said to just make sure it doesn't look like coins. KIDS?
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 Posted 01/22/2010  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AMetalHound to your friends list
norham,

where about on the s. shore are you? hamburg I'm guessing, I'm from down by Olean.

One trick I've had to deal with mostly on ebay in regards to coins is taking an accurate and clear pic. that and a quick note "no bidders outside blah blah blah" (countries of your choice) After that is not too bad, besides fees lol
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 Posted 01/22/2010  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list
Hello

Shipping between Canada and the U.S. is easy, you should have no problems. I live in Canada, in my experience when ordering any item from the U.S., shipping times can vary from about 8 business days during non-peak periods, to as high as 15 business days during peak holiday periods (Christmas). I find lettermail gets here faster than parcels.

Coins, tokens, and medals sent to Canada, which are meant for collections are not subject to any customs duty. See 9705.00.00 in the current customs tariff: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-co...ch97-eng.pdf. As for taxes, in my experience, customs won't charge any tax on items mailed unless they charge you duty.

If you are a U.S. citizen, you can check http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/ for a list of people and countries you can't do business with.

Also be aware, many European countries are strict when it comes to importing/exporting ancient coins (i.e from the roman empire). Ancient coins are covered under UNESCO, so you might want to do more research if it concerns you.

Many ebay sellers encounter high instances of fraud in certain countries, which is why they refuse to sell in certain places. I don't think you should be worried about doing business with people from Canada.



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 Posted 01/22/2010  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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Biokemist6 said:
Shipping to Canada is quite easy as well as shipping to Australia and some European countries.

Shipping to Australia from the US is only problematic in the sense that the USPS has, for reasons of it's own, chosen to put "coins" on the list of things that are illegal to export to Australia; some US post office workers notice this and will refuse to allow you to mail coins here.

I can assure everyone that Australia has in fact no such import restrictions on coins. I've certainly never heard of "illegally imported coins" being confiscated from people. There are laws on the books about importing "money" in the form of coins and notes, but our customs officers seem to have no trouble telling the difference between a drug courier's wad of cash and collector coins.

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I have seen many sellers get negative feedback because the buyer either thinks the seller should be responsible for import duties incurred or wants the seller to mark an item as "gift" to illegally avoid import and customs duties.

These fees might apply when exporting anything valuable to certain countries; in some countries (I've heard complaints about Canada and Belgium both having ridiculously low import duty thresholds) the buyer will be asked for money when they collect the items, and the buyer may think that this is all your fault and neg you for charging them "hidden extra fees". This is why most sellers put disclaimers asking people to check up on their own country's customs fees before bidding.

I think the only coins you can't ship outside of the US are ancient coins from Cyprus and China; that peculiar restriction is being tested in the courts. Modern bullion coins from blacklisted countries (currently Cuba, Iran, Myanmar and Sudan) may also be problematic to export; they're certainly illegal to import.
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 Posted 01/22/2010  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list
I think that a lot of this boils down to bias and stereotyping of folks based on a bad experience in the past with a person of a certain country.

As far as chargebacks go, Registered Mail negates that issue.
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 Posted 01/22/2010  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I am not sure you can use Registered for out of country shipments. You could track it on the USPS website until it was delivered to the other country, then it is traveling blind. I have never had this problem but I do know when shipping from Hong Kong to the US with delivery confirmation when you look it up you can see when it left the PO there and where it traveled to the boarder but once the US has it you just got to sit and wait for it to arrive because you can't track it any longer. I was just guessing that would be how it was going the other way also
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 Posted 01/22/2010  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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...You could track it on the USPS website until it was delivered to the other country, then it is traveling blind...

A couple of years ago, someone in Georgia (the US state, not the European country) sent me a package of coins by Registered mail. It turned up here in Australia ten days later (that's about the usual US-Australia shipping time). I e-mailed him to let him know it had arrived and he was surprised; the USPS "parcel tracker" said it was still in Georgia.
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 Posted 01/22/2010  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list
I have made many, many shipments outside of the US, and Registered Mail is the only way I will ship. Signature is required at point of delivery no matter what country it is sent to. If the buyer refutes his receipt of the item to paypal, my registration receipt is all the proof I need that the item was sent. Whether delivery is actually made or not, there is no possibility of chargeback. Up to $25,000 insurance is included in the price of the registration fee of less than $14, so it is actually a bargain if you want peace of mind, all the way around.
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 Posted 01/23/2010  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add norham to your friends list
Ah, the elusive "peace of mind" Well as usual a lot of good advice. Hey "AMetalHound" I am west of Cleveland.
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 Posted 01/23/2010  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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I have made many, many shipments outside of the US, and Registered Mail is the only way I will ship. Signature is required at point of delivery no matter what country it is sent to. If the buyer refutes his receipt of the item to paypal, my registration receipt is all the proof I need that the item was sent. Whether delivery is actually made or not, there is no possibility of chargeback. Up to $25,000 insurance is included in the price of the registration fee of less than $14, so it is actually a bargain if you want peace of mind,

Even the Post Office will tell you that once it leaves the country it is at the mercy of the other countries postal regs. It may or may not get signed for and it probably would not show up on the USPS tracking. And the Registration reciept may be all the proof you need, but Paypal wants proof of receipt at the other end because the SELLER is responsible for making sure it gets there so there IS the chance of chargebacks. Next the $25,000 sounds nice, but if you read the USPS regs you will find that the MAXIMUM reimbursement for a lost Registered mail package sent overseas is about $43 no matter how much the declared value was.
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 Posted 01/23/2010  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bomndk to your friends list
I live in Denmark and the few times I have received registered mail from USA I always had to sign for it.
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 Posted 01/23/2010  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list
Countries I have had problems with and will not longer ship to
India 3 packages out of 4 never arrived at their destination.
Ghana 1 for 1 lost
Argentina 2 for 2 lost
I ship to maybe 4 or five different countries in any given month and I have found the best way to get a package to its destination is not to send it registered or insured. Its just calling attention to itself if you do.
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